Seaclear from scratch

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Aug 6, 2012
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Pearson 30 Whitehall,MI
Not free but not so expensive

Here we go. I have little tolerance for the technical self agrandizing aspects of computer jargon. I would like to set up my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1525) as a basic chartplotter. I have looked at Seaclear and Raster charts which thus far seem to open in Malay. Would someone be willing to provide a basic setup tutorial for someone who wants a GPS system that provides location on a chart. I have the receiver. (Globolsat BU353) Thus far this has provided hours of iritation to the point a chart, compass, dividers, pencil and a set of triangles look mighty superior.:cussing:
Helloo, longtime reader but first time post . I did try SeaClear, but i wasnt satisfied, so i began searching the web. I've found FUGAWI, its a great chartplotter software, even have GRIB overlay on current map in use. Little hard to get used to it because of the many functions available. Works perfect with my Garmin 78s (you must purchase a USB cable from Garmin). Its put together in the Toronto area, and so far support for my x number of questions been great. Its possible to download a trial version.

Fair winds,
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,182
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Open CPN

I purchased and used Polar Navy, but gave up when it dropped my AIS feed a couple of times... when I really needed it. So, I'm back to Open CPN and it works just fine. A friend relied on it to take their boat from USA to AUS. I just noticed they have a 3.0, so I'm going to update. Wish it had magnetic course/bearing, but that's a nit. I started with SeaClear ll but I don't use it anymore.

 
Oct 17, 2011
2,809
Ericson 29 Southport..
Does anyone other than me still navigate on paper charts with a set of parallel rules and compass and dividers? One thing that is nice on the East Coast is no matter where you are if you head West you can run your boat into land :>). I had a crew one time that forgot that lesson while I was asleep and had us heading to the Azores. Lost about 40 miles of time with that simple lesson. Kind of goes well with the old saying "Go West young man."
Jibes, at this point, it's still the only way I know HOW to navigate. And I've gotta take one to the Azores in a short while, you could have saved me the coordinates.

I have been fooling with all this CPN and Seaclear thing since it started, just for the fun of it. Still sorta confused, but that shouldn't surprise anybody. As said, a man does need to be "careful" downloading OpenCPN, or you'll end up loading a lot of senseless crap you don't want. Seaclear managed to drop a few bombs on me called "games", whatever that is.

So, during the course of this pointless endeavour, does this mean I can hook my old Garmin 182 to these programs and it'll work? I can make the computer talk to the plotter, but from there I'm lost.

And what is a GPS puck?
 

jtm

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Jun 14, 2004
312
Hunter 28.5 Dataw Island, SC
I got into Seaclear II last summer while we set out on a 2 week sail from barnegat Light Nj to the chesapeake and back. SearclearII is free and that's hard to beat. I bought a Delorme Earthmate GPS LT-20 with usb connect for $20 online to plug into a Dell notebook running XP. The applications is a bit cryptic to set up but I was pretty pleased once I had it up and running.

My overview to set it up- google & download the SeaClear II application. in the application there are utility applications like "Mapcal_2" in the Seaclear directory.- more about that later. Install the Seaclear application.

Download the NOAA raster charts for the area you want, unzip them in a standalone folder/subdirectory.

Now you need to find, within the the chart files you just "exploded", those that have a .kap ending.
Searclear doesn't need all the files you downloaded from the noaa zip files- just the .kap ending files.

Using Windows Explorer's "Search" function, define the search with a "global" by using *.kap as the name of the file(s) you want found - they will come up in the search results - then "Select ALL" those .kap files and COPY and Paste them to the "charts" subdirectory under the Searclear II directory/folder.

In order to enable Seaclear to know what charts are available to it, and to know what the adjacent chart it needs to load as you sail off the "operating" chart in Seaclear, you need to "register" those charts with Searclear by running the utility "Mapcal_2" - which you use to point to the "charts" directory and run an inventory of all the .kap files for the SeaClear II application. Some files will overlap among the various exploded Noaa .kap files. just allow them to overwrite the duplicate - but you may have a small minority of files- less than 5 per noaa chart download that fail the registry process. I haven't found them to be a critical problem/loss- in my sailing areas .....sofar

There may also be a driver for your usb gps to allow windows to see the virtual usb/com port. This driver usually comes from the gps/hockey puck mfrr. The most hit or miss of the entire process is using the gps' config app and/or Seaclear's config to look at the correct usb/com port - just be patient and try the first 4-5 ports one at a time to see a successful handshake notation.

I found seaclear a lot of fun - i tweaked the width of the bloodline for the "track" history on the chart, i also could change the diameter of the circle around my location for comparative perspective and could also move the cursor around the screen to see me bearing to that position and also the distance to that location. Its easy to zoom in and out of charts for more detail and for dropping waypoints into charts. Its easy to string routes thru varied waypoints and save routes and tracks as you go. Also you could see a Representative "count down graphic" to your next waypoint/turn.

There also exists the possibility to hook up added inputs to the screen- but I'didn't have the connections from external mastop devices. The sailboat we were on had an elaborate $$$ Garman system with wheelpilot and I found my searclear easily gave me the nav info i needed for (almost) free!.

I'd like to try OpenCPN someday soon- but for those that want to try seaclearII I hope this overview was helpful.
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Fast forward to now- i got an ipad2 (wi-fi only) over christmas- and while the admiral plans to use it reading books while on the boat- I plan to load inavx with noaa charts and use a Dual bluetooth xgps150A to supply gps datum to the ipad and use it as a cabin chartplotter. I love these toys! Also I just tried iSailGPS app and a DUAL GPS cradle attachment to my itouch ( wi-fi only) and was pretty impressed how fast it located me. The screen is rather small for convenient use but it was fun to get working.
 

WayneH

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Jan 22, 2008
1,087
Tartan 37 287 Pensacola, FL
And what is a GPS puck?
http://www.amazon.com/GPS-Receiver-Cables-Microsoft-GPS-360/dp/B005JZX8T6

Recognized by OpenCPN (I think AFTER a driver download.) I throw it up on a shelf next to the nav station and it gives me a location before I can start OpenCPN.

There are more pucks available, just look at the "Supplemental Hardware" tab.

And check out the Plug-ins on OpenCPN. I'm using the ZYgrib for weather download and overlays and the FIND-IT plug-in for inventory of spare parts. (Where did I hide the spare fuel filters? And did I have 2 or 3?) :confused:

Oh yeah, Although it's free, you can donate to the OpenCPN cause just like you can support the SBO Chandlery so that SBO can stay free.
 
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Jun 6, 2006
6,990
currently boatless wishing Harrington Harbor North, MD
getting the gps to talk to the computer has two flavors, plug and play and make/buy the cable
The interface language is NMEA (not talking RayNav which will only work with SeaTalk and other instrument manufacturers software)
It is a SERIAL interface so USB and that (oddly enough) serial port on the back are how the data gets in. The software will have a section of the "properties" menu that lets you set up the communications ports that it will take the data on. Serial to USB is also possible. If you are making a cable you will need to do your homework. You are looking for the NMEA out and NMEA in (alternately called NMEA + and - etc) bottom line is there are two wires that carry the data and provide the ground reference. You can google "nmea to serial" to get the serial port pin out map and you will see similar data in and out or ground.
GPS data out (nmea out) is the data in on the serial port. Most of the serial pins are not used. Do connect the ground pin on the serial port to the cables outer shield as that is an important noise reduction item.
I've done this for my RayNav 300 and Dell laptop and it was pretty easy.
Made a cable that lets me just plug in at the nav station and away we go.
 

jwebb

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Jan 9, 2013
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Oday 30' fl
Liked seaclear

Here we go. I have little tolerance for the technical self agrandizing aspects of computer jargon. I would like to set up my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1525) as a basic chartplotter. I have looked at Seaclear and Raster charts which thus far seem to open in Malay. Would someone be willing to provide a basic setup tutorial for someone who wants a GPS system that provides location on a chart. I have the receiver. (Globolsat BU353) Thus far this has provided hours of iritation to the point a chart, compass, dividers, pencil and a set of triangles look mighty superior.:cussing:
I have used seaclear II twice traveling from N.Y. to Fl. and Florida to North Carolina and liked it very much. Bought the system new about 3years ago along with the GPS. Loaded the disk into my laptop, plugged in the puck and found it very acurate and easy to use. They said you can use any GPS with the system. Not being very computer savy, I fund the system extremely easy to use. But, I've only used it on the east coast. Good luck.
 
Oct 26, 2010
2,105
Hunter 40.5 Beaufort, SC
My vote for PolarNavy

I have tried SeaClear and OpenCPN, but the program that I like the best is PolarNavy. While not free, the cost is only $39 for FIVE computers. It displays BSB and ENC charts, displays tides and currents (and the set), and connects easily and consistently with the GPS puck. Another HUGE plus is that it connects to and downloads information from Active Captain. If you can afford the $39 investment, you may want to try it out.

http://www.polarnavy.com/index.php

I agree with the PolarNavy product. You can download and updated free charts and it works great with the GPS Puck. It seems to be very accurate. Put me right at the pier I was at when I installed it and hooked up the GPS puck. I think you can even connect it to your other GPS inputs but I haven't tried that as I like having a stand alone backup to my chartplotter and paper charts. Plus it interfaces with Active Captain and gives you the current alerts, etc. right on the chart you can click on and see what's been reported (always with a grain of salt.) Also it loads the Active Captain marina and anchorages including details on how to approach and where to anchor if the wind is from a different direction. And NO I don't have a share in Polar Navy. Best $39 I've invested in yet if just for the activie captain interface on the plotter. It has a great waypoint planning tool where you can put in way points and even export them to you regular chartplotter but I haven't tried that yet so I don't know how easy it is to do. Just my 2 cents.
 
Jan 1, 2013
54
Oday 27 Coos Bay, Oregon
I used Seaclear II in 2011, but there has got to be something better. It worked ok, but was not user friendly in my opinion. I quess I'll have to break down and buy a good chart plotter. I also still use paper charts and shoot my sextant. I do the sextant just to keep it fresh in my aging brain.
..Michael..
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
... It has a great waypoint planning tool where you can put in way points and even export them to you regular chartplotter but I haven't tried that yet so I don't know how easy it is to do. Just my 2 cents.
To us, usually going into new water, being able to plan the route and transfer it to a chartplotter is about equal to seeing where we currently are. SeaClear and OpenCPN do that easily and transfer in seconds ahead of time or on the fly if you make changes in route.

I'm assuming to use the Active Captain you also have to be connected to the internet at the same time?

I'm using Active Captain more now than I use to for planning, but open it in a different window on the computer and try and do any of that planning before we are underway,

Sum

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WayneH

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Jan 22, 2008
1,087
Tartan 37 287 Pensacola, FL
I keep OpenCPN and my chartplotter synced up. I also like to get away from the crowds and into quiet anchorages. Places which are not charted very well or were charted 40 years ago. If I had lots of money, I'd buy one of these.

http://www.basspro.com/Humminbird-SmartCast-RF35-Wrist-Mount-Fishfinder-with-RSS/product/58970/

But I'm CHEAP! I use my fishing pole to throw an unweighted cork with a weight attached on a five foot length of line. Boat draft is 4 foot. If the cork floats normally, I can move ahead. If it floats on it's side, time to stop.

Disclaimer: The one foot between my keel and the bottom only works where the tidal change is small like the Gulf of Mexico. Using this method on the Chesapeake or Puget Sound will lead to long periods of not moving. :)
 
Nov 3, 2010
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Oday 39 Lake mills WI
Here we go. I have little tolerance for the technical self agrandizing aspects of computer jargon. I would like to set up my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1525) as a basic chartplotter. I have looked at Seaclear and Raster charts which thus far seem to open in Malay. Would someone be willing to provide a basic setup tutorial for someone who wants a GPS system that provides location on a chart. I have the receiver. (Globolsat BU353) Thus far this has provided hours of iritation to the point a chart, compass, dividers, pencil and a set of triangles look mighty superior.:cussing:
Wow.. What great response.

So how well will this software work on the new touch screens?
I'm planning to purchase one touch screen laptop to run the nav program, quick books with massive data files, google chrome, and some entertainment , DVD etc. anyone see problems with this?
Any suggestions on extended range cell booster?
 
Dec 7, 2012
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Kittiwake 23, Irwin 43 .. Indianapolis / indianatown, fl
hello

does anyone know about a program from NOAA called Diginav with GPS puck.. it is supose to be laptop friendly, with GPS overlays and positioning.. i was wondering if anyone has used this before and how they would rate it ?

thanks
Jess
 
Jan 1, 2013
54
Oday 27 Coos Bay, Oregon
hello

does anyone know about a program from NOAA called Diginav with GPS puck.. it is supose to be laptop friendly, with GPS overlays and positioning.. i was wondering if anyone has used this before and how they would rate it ?

thanks
Jess
Diginav is seaclear, Works fine and I have used this product. Not the best, but for $60.00 it's not bad. Only works in US waters... Michael..
 
Nov 8, 2007
1,578
Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
Navionics is our choice

We have used Navionics on Lakes Erie, Ontario, and Huron; Newport to the Vineyard, the Chesapeake, and Bay of Islands, New Zealand. Have not found errors yet, and the capabilities are growing.
 
Sep 25, 2008
1,096
CS 30 Toronto
Seaclear is fine. Take a little of reading the manual to get it working. It's old but has everything you need: GPS, Charts, AIS, Wind, Depth etc. It's pretty fast on slow computer.

OpenCPN is much newer, GUI is bit better. It can use the same chart that Seaclear uses. You can actually point the directory to the SeaClear charts. The set up is quite simple. But on slow machine, it's a bear. Took 100% cpu and very sluggish. You can tune it by editing the INI file. Not an easy task for less computer savvy folks. I heard that is it working or already support Radar overlay. That's why I tried it. Don't have Radar yet, but planning to have one.
 
Feb 29, 2012
37
Hunter 376 Elvina Bay,NSW, Australia
Here we go. I have little tolerance for the technical self agrandizing aspects of computer jargon. I would like to set up my laptop (Dell Inspiron 1525) as a basic chartplotter. I have looked at Seaclear and Raster charts which thus far seem to open in Malay. Would someone be willing to provide a basic setup tutorial for someone who wants a GPS system that provides location on a chart. I have the receiver. (Globolsat BU353) Thus far this has provided hours of iritation to the point a chart, compass, dividers, pencil and a set of triangles look mighty superior.:cussing:
Get a Macbook and get PassagePlus, a great program, you have the Globalsat BU353 GPS receiver already, works great, now for the charts, they use Raster charts, PassagePlus is a passage planning, navigation and ship tracking application aimed at the leisure sailing market. To the best of my knowledge it is the only Mac OS X application compatible with the UK Hydrographic Office's ARCS charts, Land Information New Zealand's NZMariner charts and the Australian Hydrographic Service's AusRNC charts.
 
Jan 31, 2013
239
MacGregor Mac26X Trailer sailing for adventure,
Open cpm!!!! gonna use the radar pugin as well! Tried raymarine and it was useless.
 
Apr 14, 2010
195
Jeanneau 42DS Larnaca Marina
Yes, OpenCPN is free and you can find and download the CM-93 world charts for FREE. And they are great! I was playing around and looking at the controlling depth on the main canal in Venice Italy! Fun to play with.

Greg
Greg,
What site offers Free CM-93 world charts? I'm unable to locate. Thanks.
Lee
 
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