Scumbags & Thieves..

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Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
What is with the world today. Over the last few days I have come across multiple instances of my copyrighted work being used without my permission and in some cases like this one COMPLETELY RIPPED OFF.

I suspect this is just a scam and he's using my work to steal and scam money from unsuspecting buyers..

Recognize this!
http://www.cutlassbearing.net/Replacing-a-cutlass-bearing.html

I hate to charge or make my site membership only but this is getting ridiculous!!!
 
Oct 6, 2008
857
Hunter, Island Packet, Catalina, San Juan 26,38,22,23 Kettle Falls, Washington
MS. It's sad that so much of today society simply wants "rewards" with little if any work. We need to bombard their site with any and all disruption at our disposal.
Is any of your work copywrited or protected through your position on this site?
I would truly feel pain without your input on this forum.

I just sent my first e-mail. This is going to be fun.
Ray
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
I think

Maine,
As much as I hate to say it, I think I would find me a scum sucking, bottom feeding, no morals, 100% shyster lawyer, and sue these guys into the next century. You can easily find plenty of witnesses from this site who would gladly testify whose work this is. Anyone who regularly visits this site will recognize your work.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
I just wrote them a scathing comment

I just went to their website and gave them hell for stealing your work. Will be interesting to see if I hear anything back.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Good luck when you litigate this in INDIA
Asia is now where most of the former intellectual property of US citizens is now 'stored'. You just 'joined the club', welcome. We have millions of active members. :)

SS METALS (Manufacturing Unit address)
Manjapra Village, Ernakulam (Dst).
Kerala.India.
Ph: 0484- 2690490, 2691685
Mob : +91- 9447913672, 94477 77574.
Email: best@cutlassbearing.net
cutlassbearing@gmail.com

When you talk to them you might want to let them know that a cutlass is a sword or a former GM automobile and a cutless is bearing used on boats.
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
It looks like this company is out of India.

Didn't even edit the "I's" out of it. I suggest the every member of the SBO family bombard this company with an e-mail a day (or an hour) using their "contact form" until they remove it. They'll have to spend hours just sifting through our emails to get to the real interested parties.
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Notice their from another country...probably makes it harder to sue but a cease and desist letter might work
 

jimmyb

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Feb 12, 2010
231
Precison 165 NA
Integrity is a species quickly becoming extinct along with many others such as honor, honesty and truth. Maybe you could find some High School computer wiz kid to hack in a nice package of viruses for them to chew on.

Good luck anyway,
jimmyb
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
When you talk to them you might want to let them know that a cutlass is a sword or a former GM automobile and a cutless is bearing used on boats.
Except that "Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE]" is now a registered trade name by Johnson Duramax the makers of the "Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE]" sleeve, cutlass or marine bearing. Kind of like sailboard and Windsurfer[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE].

I actually had this discussion with Duramax directly before posting that article as I did not want to infringe on a [SIZE=-1]® [/SIZE]trade name. I was told by Johnson that the commonly used generic name is cutlass or sleeve bearing and their registered trade name is Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE] and that they own that name. I went with cutlass because that is what most everyone knows them by not sleeve or marine bearing, no need to further confuse.

Also a very large portion of vendors, including reputable prop shops, sell them as cutlass bearings so when folks go looking and type in cutlass they will likely get what they are looking for. By typing in Cutless you might tend to limit your self to the Johnson Durmax product. Morse and Buck Algonquin are also players though the BA product is made by Duramax at last check and they refer to their products as sleeve or marine bearings not Cutless because the name is taken.

For my article I wanted simple and most boaters understand what a cutlass bearing is despite the origins and legal ramifications around the term Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE]..
 

jimmyb

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Feb 12, 2010
231
Precison 165 NA
Yup, just sent an email via there reply form at the right of the article when the page opens. Worked nicely. I will give em hell every so often as I sit and read or watch tv at night. This may actually harrass them enough where it isnt worth having the article up.

jimmyb
 
Mar 20, 2004
1,753
Hunter 356 and 216 Portland, ME
MS,
messages sent! This is a good example of why we should stop doing business with that part of the world. If they can't follow the law and respect others' work, then they shouldn't be allowed to do business in the US
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
1,279
C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
Many messages sent already. This is going to be fun! :dance: This quote from their website shows us the true integrity of the company.

"The Managing director-Mr. K.V.BOSS- is a dedicated person, whom has much knowledge and mind to deliver quality products to his customers. He strongly believes in his ethics as append below."

Laughable.
 
May 26, 2004
168
- - Oriental, NC
India & MSSite

MS I have worked in India a good bit a couple of years ago. Don't be surprised by this. They can out computer us on a heart beat. Not just because of this but because you deserve it taking your site private at a fee is reasonable. You have built the reputation and the site in the community. I really appreciate your work and approach. Where do I sign up. The Catalina 34 site does and it works very well and is supported.
Good Winds
DaveM
 
Dec 29, 2009
51
Seidelman S-37 Mobile
Maine, You have my deepest sympathy since I have been ripped off before. I hope you find out soon who is doing this to you. There is more of this going on then many of you would suspect. Thieves, shysters and liars who will do most anything and never give it a second thought as long as they think they are getting away with it. I am a strict believer in charma and believe what goes around, comes around and they will eventually get what is coming to them one way or the other.
 

RichH

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Feb 14, 2005
4,773
Tayana 37 cutter; I20/M20 SCOWS Worton Creek, MD
Except that "Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE]" is now a registered trade name by Johnson Duramax the makers of the "Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE]" sleeve, cutlass or marine bearing. Kind of like sailboard and Windsurfer[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE].

I actually had this discussion with Duramax directly before posting that article as I did not want to infringe on a [SIZE=-1]® [/SIZE]trade name. I was told by Johnson that the commonly used generic name is cutlass or sleeve bearing and their registered trade name is Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE] and that they own that name. I went with cutlass because that is what most everyone knows them by not sleeve or marine bearing, no need to further confuse.

Also a very large portion of vendors, including reputable prop shops, sell them as cutlass bearings so when folks go looking and type in cutlass they will likely get what they are looking for. By typing in Cutless you might tend to limit your self to the Johnson Durmax product. Morse and Buck Algonquin are also players though the BA product is made by Duramax at last check and they refer to their products as sleeve or marine bearings not Cutless because the name is taken.

For my article I wanted simple and most boaters understand what a cutlass bearing is despite the origins and legal ramifications around the term Cutless[SIZE=-1]®[/SIZE]..
Yup very successful marketing.... the took the common STAVE BEARING, added their name cutLESS and became the (well deserved because of their quality) the principal manufacturer + supplier .... still cutlass is a sword or discontinued GM automobile. STAVE bearing is generic. ;-)
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
When you're sending your messages, remember to march around the room chanting, "No Cutlass, No Peace"!:cussing::cussing:
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Yup very successful marketing.... the took the common STAVE BEARING, added their name cutLESS and became the (well deserved because of their quality) the principal manufacturer + supplier .... still cutlass is a sword or discontinued GM automobile. STAVE bearing is generic. ;-)
Yep successful marketing, but try telling that to the thousands & thousands of boaters who also know it as a cutlass bearing because it is the term, right or wrong, that is now most commonly used. This is likely because Duramax owns the word Cutless.

There are thousands and thousands of hits for cutlass bearing most by vendors and prop shops who sell them. References to cutlass bearings can be found lots of places including;

Defender, Tacoma Prop, H&H Prop, Passage Maker Magazine, Hamilton Marine, Prop Scan, iBoats, West Systems, Pyacht, Beth Leonard & Evans Starzingers site, Nordhaven Yachts, Sabre Yachts, J Boat, David Pascoe/YachtSurvey.com, Vetus (actually a manufacturer), Tides Marine, AutoProp, Torresen Marine etc. etc...
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,323
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Has anyone tried calling the phone number? Has there been any response to the e-mails?............ Are there agreements between the US and India that would enable copyright laws to be enforced?

I, mean, it sucks that MS has stuff ripped off... but I doubt that flaming S.S. would cause any change....
 
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