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May 30, 2013
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lancer l25 illinois
Hi
I am in need of advice
I have been dreaming of sailing coastal for over a decade
I have a snark I've sailed not often our lake is almost all.power boats or fishing
Really only safe sailing is on days for sailboat races
I purchased a lancer 25. In Essex ma and in 30 days I'm going to start my year long
Trek down the coast to Caribbean
I'm on a tight budget being year long trek
But I would like to take a course in that area before I leave
Internet tells a lot. But peoples knowledge trump the internet
If u have any suggestions that would b great
I must again state that I'm budgeted
Thanks
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
If you are serious about this then go to the charts, http://www.nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/staff/BookletChart.html And carefully plan your route. you will have 360 days and you can reasonably expect to be able to sail 20 miles on a good day. If all of the days were good you could travel 7,200 miles. The days aren't all good and some days you will have to sail more than 20 miles. You must understand that we are just now entering the hurricane season. Have you sailed your new boat for an entire day yet? Can you cook food on the new boat? do you know how to cook?
 
May 1, 2011
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Pearson 37 Lusby MD
What safety equipment is on the boat? Flares? VHF? PFDs? Do you know how to lay out a track on a chart? Do you know how to interpret what you see in the sky with regard to weather? Do you know how to read wind on the water?
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Weilandbrake, During all of the time you have dreamed of making this adventure have you in any way studied the details of being entirely dependant on your own abilities while far away from help? Thirty days is hardly enough time for an experienced sailor to prepare a vessel for such a passage. I don't believe that it is enough time to prepare a landlubber for such a passage if he has to make that passage alone.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
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Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
Ross, regularily did 30 - 60 miles a day in my Eastwind 24.
 
May 30, 2013
12
lancer l25 illinois
Ur points r all good. Yes I can cook
I've read books on tides n currents
I've only sailed a snark
I'm taking all new boating equipment with me.
VHF burners solar batt sect,........
I lived in a camper for 2 yrs to save money to buy house
In water experience I've kayaked over 1k in up to class 4 ww
And a few hundred in canoe
I built a personal watercraft from plans (mini Max)
And I understand this is not a speedy way to travel
But most all I no that failure or success hinges on one fact
Trying.
Sure I'm scared but its rivaled by excitement and adventure
And I'm sure I'm not to qualified for what I want to do
But experience is best teacher
And I've also okwith the
Fact that it could b fatal
I would rather parish in pursuit of a dream
Than to go in a mundane way like car accident going for a gallon of milk
I thank u for ur threads I shall use them
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Wielandbrake, Nothing that I wrote was intended to discourage you only to determine if you were beyond the daydreaming stage. Speed is not a requirement for a passage such as this and the people along the way are important parts of the adventure. I would recommend a book called "Heavy Weather Sailing" by Adlard Coles. Remember that you boat will probably be toughter than you. Reef the sails as soon as you think it might be a good idea.
 
Mar 30, 2013
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Allied Seawind MK II 32' Oologah Lake, Oklahoma
I'd suggest that the first couple of months of your year long trek be spent learning the boat.
 
Jan 1, 2006
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Slickcraft 26 Sailfish
wielandbrake;1030497 And I've also okwith the Fact that it could b fatal I would rather parish in pursuit of a dream Than to go in a mundane way like car accident going for a gallon of milk [/QUOTE said:
I don't think you're going to die doing this. You will be mostly a few hours from shore and shelter for the first months. You could very well be uncomfortable and afraid of washing up on shore (The major fear being expenses you could incur). But if you're careful to travel when weather permits the biggest problem will be keeping expenses at bay. While the wind is free almost everything else costs.
 
May 30, 2013
12
lancer l25 illinois
No u don't seem discourageing just truthful
and yes I will b (plan) staying in bay where I purchased the vessel
To take class and practice. Before I start
But the reality is I can't resist the urge to at least try
And thanks again
Any and all info is relevant
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I have friends who have worked their passage from Connecticut to Florida. If you have marketable skills and a willingness to work you can do this. You will have a home and a place to sleep and eat. Having a dink and a good anchor reduces your expenses greatly. Take as complete a tool kit as you can afford. Try to keep in mind that every day will be different so you can't practice enough to experience all of the conditions you will encounter. At some point you will just have to decide that you can learn the rest of it along the way.
 
Oct 19, 2009
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oday 22 Lake New Melones
If there is any way you could do an ASA school I would recommend it.

I have been sailing our 22 on the local lake for the last four years, dreaming of coastal cruising. I've read and studied books and talked to people and followed the forums.

In April my wife and I took an 8 day course through Pacific Sailing out of Santa Cruz, Ca. Learning to heave-to and reef a sail in 20+ kts of wind was quite an experience. So was MOB drills. Taking bearings and checking course in the ocean swell was fun too.

I am pretty good at figuring things out, but having someone more experienced providing guidance sure helped sharpen the learning curve. If you cant afford a school, maybe an experienced friend could be helpful, or hook up with a race crew.

How ever you get out there and go for it I hope you have a great time!
 
Jan 6, 2010
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Wiel,

Not trying to take the wind out of your sails, but passion never overcomes lack of skill & knowledge. There is a lot of good advice here. You need to take heed of what advice they give. Nothing beats experience.

I been to Florida's east coast, and have done the Caribbean jump a number of times.
I started out years ago planning my first overnighters, then practice, then my 50 milers, then practice, then 100 etc.

Each time I did two things. 1, I kept working on making my boat better with what I found lacking each trip. 2, practice, practice, practice between forays . The practice is important as you want to get used to sailing in all conditions good or bad. Albeit practice close to home.

I remember my first long trip was to Sarasota (30 miles). Another six months of practice and boat improvements that were needed & found on my previous trip. Then on to the next leg. This is how it went for the next eight years man. That took me down thru the keys, up past Miami, the Yucatan, the Carib. & so on.

I worked full time & would sail late afternoons during the week & mostly both weekend days. You sail year-round in Florida, so I ended up logging a lot of sea time. I read and looked up everything literature for sail, weather, rules, emergencies etc. etc. etc. Then practice what you've read about.

And why? Because I had the passion you have now, but everyone must start at the beginning. Been doing this now since 1982 full time & still find every day I go out, I see & learn something different.

Crossing the Gulf stream is not for the inexperienced or ill-prepared. Read up on the conditions, crossing windows & dangers. Opposing conditions & volatile summer weather will be your worst fears. It's not always a cake walk even for experienced folks.

These are just my suggestions pal, as I have been where you are at now, I have also seen thru the years, friends injured & lost from not being properly prepared or adequately equipped. Thus I'm only trying to be helpful, not deflating.

Hell, your boat has no idea of what water it's sailing in, so take your time, sail the snot out her, have a cutie on board with you & your set. Now it's only practice, practice, practice...

CR
 
Jan 6, 2010
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Ross,

I believe your talking about the "Perfect Storm" or, the unnamed storm.
All across Florida people perished both times.

If memory serves me well, the captain was a TOOL(watch the movie), and she was the one who opted for rescue. That's the kind of woman, I would want to hook up with. And, from what I remember, her experience(and her girlfriend) in off-shore sailing was not that in-depth.

But, she had balls, as that was what the captain lacked. I remember a scene in the movie in which he stated "no, I don't have a VHF, nor do I need one."

What's that tell ya? And by the way, 16 people died between both storms, about 6 years apart. Some were seasoned sailors, one was well known & his boat disappeared off the East cost of Florida, they never found hide-nor-hair.......

CR
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Donna Lange sailed around alone with three stops. She had less than one year of experience when she left for an atlantic crossing.
 
May 30, 2013
12
lancer l25 illinois
I understand
I lack.experience and practice
that is why I'm looking for a course and plan to.take my time
And get the feel n set up.the boat
I've been following dawgfish a friend who listen to my dream
Read my collection of info
Took my dream and made it his own
He feeds me info all.the time
I'm taking my super snark as a dingie
Any thought on this
I've never read anyone doing this before
I've had to paddle this before
Not hard to do
And always ur threads info concern experience
R always received with appreciation
 
Nov 19, 2011
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MacGregor 26S Hampton, VA
Is this going to be a single handed adventure? Or do you have a crew or companion?

Regardless, I am in complete envy.
 
May 30, 2013
12
lancer l25 illinois
This week has been great
I'm counting down the days till.I leave
Have over insured my boat
Have received last of equipment in mail
Have tried things out
Found a course in area in budget range(450)
I've rented out house which gives me peace of mind
And extra income
Still to b honest I'm nervous and excited
Its like im asking the sea to b my girlfriend
Bold while asking while
hoping secretly not to b rejected
Again ur words are appreciated
 
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