Sand ?

Oct 21, 2012
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Macgregor 22 Lake Texoma Tx
Have you ever tried sand sailing ? A found a sand sailer on eBay looks like it might be fun , I live in New Mexico and its 400 miles to water
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
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Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
I've tried it, but the boat stops within 6 inches or so. :)
 
Jul 28, 2010
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Boston Whaler Montauk New Orleans
I've seen the carts with wheels and a sail, and I've seen ice carts with sails. Never saw the things directly on sand. I'd imagine you'd need a heckuva lotta wind.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I think I'd forget about sand.... soft sand that is... try a dry lake bed or an abandoned airstrip.... less friction.
 

LloydB

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Jan 15, 2006
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Macgregor 22 Silverton
Watched some for a while on a lake bed near Reno. They could have bought dingys and been on Tahoe in an hour instead but seemed to be having fun. Haven't found a flat sandy spot myself that didn't at times have wind so there's something to be said for no moorage fees or tags.
 

TLW

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Jan 15, 2013
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Oday 31 Whitehall, MI
Everybody's joking aside, sand (beach) sailing is some serious, go-fast, sailing. The tires are usually exaggerated ballon type to overcome rolling resistance. They can be as simple or high tech as your interest allows, and much like ice sailing, land sailing, or catamaran sailing, you are generally sailing to windward all the time do to the apparent wind.

Oh, - Wear a helmet.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,161
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Everybody's joking aside, sand (beach) sailing is some serious, go-fast, sailing. The tires are usually exaggerated ballon type to overcome rolling resistance. They can be as simple or high tech as your interest allows, and much like ice sailing, land sailing, or catamaran sailing, you are generally sailing to windward all the time do to the apparent wind.

Oh, - Wear a helmet.
Okay... sounds like fun.. but let me nitpick your analogy here. Sailing to windward, or sailing upwind, is not due to apparent wind direction. Your Point of Sail is based on TRUE wind direction. Apparent wind direction is a combination of true wind speed/direction and boat speed/direction.

So, yes, the apparent wind indicator will almost always be pointing well forward, but that is a result of boat speed, not wind direction.
 

TLW

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Jan 15, 2013
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Oday 31 Whitehall, MI
Joe, I was talking about SAIL TRIM, which is to the APPARENT WIND. Of course, your not sailing into the actual wind direction all the time. Would eventually have to call a taxi, wouldn't you.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,161
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Joe, I was talking about SAIL TRIM, which is to the APPARENT WIND. Of course, your not sailing into the actual wind direction all the time. Would eventually have to call a taxi, wouldn't you.
I'm sure that's what you meant....