Sailing T.S. Lee

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Hunter 36 Pensacola
Planning on going sailing Sunday if the conditions are right. i.e. no lightning, pouring rain. Was wondering what combination of sails I should use for a 1981 Hunter 36. We have a 110 hank on jib and our main is capable of double reef. We will stay in the bay but I was wondering what works best for this boat. Just main sail? Just jib? Combination of both? Our last boat was a Catalina 30 and it was lots of fun when the wind was 20-25 knots.
Tony
 
Jun 21, 2007
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Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
Hi Tony:

Is this the first outing on your HC36? If so, you probably can't sit still with the anticipation of it. Below is a picture taken during my first sail after purchase and six months of work on the hard.

Re your questions about the sail plan, a lot depends on the conditions of course. But here goes:

- Since you haven't sailed on this boat before, then the one sail idea to start isn't a bad idea. For a masthead rigged boat (as are ours), you'll do better with the jib only, instead of the mainsail only. Many boats sail this way in San Francisco Bay if the skipper doesn't want to fuss too much for a short outing, or if the winds are really kicking up. I sometimes sail with just my 135 genoa. If the winds are moderate, and I let it out all the way on the furler, I hardly even notice the speed difference of no mainsail.

- My suggestion is to set the second reef on the mainsail before you leave the dock. Then after you get a feel for the boat with your 110 only, then use the mainsail reefed. This has been a really windy summer on SF Bay. So I've kept the mainsail on the second reef virtually all the time. For the central bay, where the wind is really piping, I'll also roll up the 135 genoa around the furler quite a bit. For spots on the bay where the wind is more moderate, the 135 is let out. But the mainsail stays on the second reef point --- because I've got to cross the +25kt "the slot" on the way home as well. The exception was today given a more moderate windcast. So I set the mainsail on the first reef. We were surprised instead with a rowdy 35 kts wind in the section south of Angel Island and north of Treasure Island. The boat nonetheless did fine with the genoa rolled back to appx a 90% size. Weather helm for sure, but not too severe.

- Presumably an inside jib sheet track hasn't been installed on boat and that you do have the moveable snap blocks for the toe rail? Let me know if you need some tips on this.

I don't know if this was necessary on your Catalina, but certainly on my HC36, when raising the mainsail, it really helps for the boom to be held above horizontal by the topping lift. Otherwise, raising the sail to the top and then getting enough tension on the luff rope to avoid scallops is very hard to do. The after the luff is tensioned, slack off the topping lift.

Have fun! Report back your experience.

rardi

ps: Regarding the cockpit floor hatch, I suspect that you haven't had enough time to do the permanent fix. Before you go out, at least secure it with a few screws. Then seal around the edges with duct tape. If you remove the duck tape with a week or so, the duct shouldn't leave too much sticky behind. But if so, the sticky will still be pliable enough to each come off with acetone.
 

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Oct 29, 2010
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Hunter 36 Pensacola
Anxious

Rardi,

I am working in the ER now and it is slow. All I can think about is getting out there!!
We have sailed the H36 a little bit, 3 times I think, and it wasn't even white caping......so...no experience on the H36. I am using blocks on the toe rails but they aren't snatch blocks. I have to move them the old fashioned way. I appreciate the sail reccomendations. I was thinking using the mainsail would be a pain. (no lazy jacks, difficult to deal with in high winds with flaking/stowing) I am about to address the engine cover. Did you get the pictures I posted on the engine cover? The duct tape seems like a good idea. I have been in Pensacola bay with my old boat, the C30's bow digging in the waves (motoring) and had a wall of water coming over the boat with each wave. Duct take may just be the thing to keep the bilge from working too hard.
 
Jun 21, 2007
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Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
Re: Anxious

Tony:

Despite a couple of hours of singles tennis this morning, I 'm not yet a candidate to add some action into your slow ER.

With a hank-on jib, instead of a jib on roller furler, being able to move the toe rail sheet blocks fore/aft probably isn't too critical. But maybe the feature would still be useful to easily change the shape of the sail depending on wind conditions. I've stowed my original equipment snatch blocks away. I am using instead standard blocks with snap shackles attached to them. If you have nautical flea markets in your area (they generally happen in the spring start of boating season), you might have an adventure finding a couple snap shackles. Or buying new is also an option.

Yes I did see the cockpit hatch pictures and did acknowledge with a response on the thread. Couldn't say much because yours looked the same as mine before I did the modification.

regards,
rardi
 
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