Sailing Schools

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Don Guillette

Mates: I'm curious about what listers are seeking out of a sailing school? This topic is going on over on another Catalina list I belong to so I thought I'd throw it out here. A number of years ago, when I got back into sailing and realized I didn't remember anything and knew I needed instruction, I researched a number of schools in the LA area. I discounted the ones that told me that after a couple of hours of instruction I'd be competent enough to take a 30 footer to Catalina island!! Not knowing what I really wanted out of a sailing school, I picked what I thought was a good one in Newport Beach and it turned out OK. I took every class they had - from beginner to expert ( the expert was 4 nights from 4PM to 10PM and all off shore), anchoring, systems, navigation. You name it and if they had it , I took it but if you don't know what your doing I could go out every night and I still would not know what was going on. The problem was the main reason I really got into their program was to learn to efficiently and properly sail a boat using all the sail trim controls for the main and jib. Unfortunately, that goal was not realized. I could not read the wind and had no idea what the instructors was even talking about. They used terms that were way beyond me like twist and draft position and plus and minus wind forces on the sail. I'd look around at the other people in the class and they are all nodding their heads in agreement so I thought I was the only idiot in the class that didn't get it. Come to find out they didn't know crap either. On my final check out there were 3 instructors I could have picked. I picked the toughest of the 3. The other students thought I was nuts but I hate kidding myself. The other two instructors would has passed me in a heart beat. Actually, I did great at the dock and backing the boat, and flaking sail but when we got under sail and he said to tack the boat I really didn't know which way to turn it. I guessed the right way but he picked up on it immediately that it was just a guess and he then asked me a couple of questions and my answers just confirmed what he already knew. The test ended right there but he agreed to teach me. After 4 hours of private lessons, which were presented in plain English and easy to understand, it finally started to make sense and the lights started to come on but I still had a long way to go. Knowing what I know now, my sailing school search would be a lot different. I know what I'd look for in the curriculum. Additionally, a lot of the overall sailing school stuff can be learned by simply reading. Sailing schools, most of which also charter boats, don't make a lot of $$ on the school itself. Where the money is made is on charter so they want to get the student into the charter as soon as possible. Sometime the quickness of the class gives beginners a false sense of security, which they find out the first time the situation gets a little hairy.
 
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Warren

I learned more about sail trim

reading books about it than I ever got from my sailing classes. Like you, when I decided to get back to sailing after 20+ years I took every class from BKB, navigation up to advanced coastal cruising that included spending two days and nights off shore sailing from Galveston to Pt. Aransas. I had one teacher that really knew sail trim but the class wasn't long enough for him to really get into it in any depth. The classes were great for getting some basic knowledge but nothing is better than just sailing as much as possible, making mistakes and learning from them.
 
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Ron

I sent my wife to a three weekend school in Kemah. She would have learned more by throwing the money in the air and watching how the wind blew it away. Some friends of ours took classes in Florida and San Diego. Lots of $$$. Then they left Galveston for Key west. Off the cost of Mississippi they ran out of fuel, blew out their main and had to get a CG tow to port. So much for sailing schools.... Ron
 
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Bill O'Donovan

Two suggestions

J World in San Diego (or Key West) is a proven, excellent school for learning everything about sail trim and the rationales behind it. European Boat Rentals or some such name in the shops at San Pedro rents sailboats and may have someone who can go out with you. Great little place to rent a boat.
 
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RonD

Similar experience

I started in a USCG Auxiliary Boating Safety/Sailing Fundamentals course at night. That gave me a general orientation so I knew a bit of terminology, theory, rules-of-the-road, etc. Next I took a 20 hour on-the-water school on a Pearson 303. Like you, it was very short on sail trim -- but I did generally learn to tack, flake sails, hank on/off a jib, sail off/to a mooring, etc. I asked about setting the traveler, etc. but didn't get anything useful by way of explanation. Day-sailed a rented 24ft boat (from the school) the rest of the Summer & got by on trial & error. Read lots of books (the "Sail Trim" handbook from Sail Magaizine was interesting but far too technical for a beginner). Next Spring I took the second 20 hour Cruising course from the same school. More on docking, anchoring, etc. but little on sail trim technique. More Day-Sailing & one or two charters on 30-33 footers followed. Signed on the schooner "Ocean Star" for a one week coastal navigation training cruise from NYC to Portland ME. Did another cruise on "Ocean Star" the next year. Learned more about sail trim & seamanship on those cruises than everything prior -- but that could be just because I had accrued enough background skills & knowledge to begin really putting things together. Bought my own boat finally (a C320). Found your sail trim book to be the best I've read. My guests are really impressed when I can trim things to hold a course close-hauled 25 degrees off an 18 knot wind with hands-off the wheel for many minutes at a time! I recommend it in my Boating Safety & Seamanship classes. --RonD
 
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