That's correct. It's typical, at least where I've been exposed to it, to yell "starboard!" when under sail and in a possible conflicting path with another motoring vessel. I don't generally yell anything at motoring vessels but thought he, being a sailor, might understand. The only other words that came to mind consisted of mostly 4 letters. I had no idea he was moving into the channel until it was too late to make any course change safely. If it were busy, or had I seen him making his move, I would have obliged. What gets me is it wasn't a close call or near miss or dangerous in any way but this fella was very angry.
Sailing Pet Peeves...can we keep out of the War Room?
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He probably thought passing Port to Port took precedent over sail over motoring... he failed to make his intentions "early" as required under the COLREGS also.
We had a situation last week in a race where we were in the magic circle well before the other boat but we were on port and he on starboard so he technically had stand on privileges. We immediately, within a split second, made our intention to pass off his stern by falling off to starboard rather dramatically, with the intention, that was very clear, to pass around his stern and he still t-boned another boat at the mark who was in irons and dead in the water........
He actually fell off his proper course in doing so and did not need to....
And as all good chidren growing up in Madison County know, there is "one Ida" in Oneida.
Hey! I resemble that remark!
Another time, we were on starboard tack, but sailing along at about 3 knots in a light breeze on a busy Sunday morning. We were near the upwind mark for the LHYC fleet but the fleet was well behind us so we had no concerns, thinking that we would be well past the mark by the time the fleet got there. So about 50 feet off our port bow, hidden from view, I hear a loudspeaker cautioning me that I am on a collision course with the race committee pontoon boat! I have no idea when they got there but it was embarrassing for sure! Luckily for me, our dog Shelby went to the port side to make some new friends (she doesn't have enough sense to be embarrassed ... imagine!) and she did a great job of smoothing over the entire episode.
A few weeks ago, my wife and I are booming along on a starboard tack, me at the helm and Sue with her eyes closed enjoying the sunshine. A tiny little trimaran, made for one person to sit in one position while puttering around with a single mainsheet for sail control and a cooler strapped to the mast, passed my bow about 20 feet in front of me (on a port reach). I was pretty startled but he just seemed to casually tip his drink as he went by. I never saw him coming as he must have been behind the genny the entire time.
I've had a few uncomfortable moments on port tack myself ... I want to have my clew cut higher so I can see under. It's a busy lake and it doesn't take much to lose sight anybody on the other side of the sail.
I've had a few uncomfortable moments because of the lack of vision. One time we were sailing at night, just ghosting along when I hear some chatter in Spanish right in front of our boat! I don't know what they were saying but they were excited. On this occasion, my son was with me and he didn't see anything either. When passing by, I noted that there were no lights on their small runabout (they were just drifting in the middle of the lake and they seemed to be picking themselves off the floor of the boat for some reason ...).
Another time, we were on starboard tack, but sailing along at about 3 knots in a light breeze on a busy Sunday morning. We were near the upwind mark for the LHYC fleet but the fleet was well behind us so we had no concerns, thinking that we would be well past the mark by the time the fleet got there. So about 50 feet off our port bow, hidden from view, I hear a loudspeaker cautioning me that I am on a collision course with the race committee pontoon boat! I have no idea when they got there but it was embarrassing for sure! Luckily for me, our dog Shelby went to the port side to make some new friends (she doesn't have enough sense to be embarrassed ... imagine!) and she did a great job of smoothing over the entire episode.
A few weeks ago, my wife and I are booming along on a starboard tack, me at the helm and Sue with her eyes closed enjoying the sunshine. A tiny little trimaran, made for one person to sit in one position while puttering around with a single mainsheet for sail control and a cooler strapped to the mast, passed my bow about 20 feet in front of me (on a port reach). I was pretty startled but he just seemed to casually tip his drink as he went by. I never saw him coming as he must have been behind the genny the entire time.
I've had a few uncomfortable moments on port tack myself ... I want to have my clew cut higher so I can see under. It's a busy lake and it doesn't take much to lose sight anybody on the other side of the sail.
The biggest one for me is powerboats that slow down from a plane for a no wake zone and plow through at 2000 rpms. They would gave been better off planing through the area!
We went out to watch fireworks for the 4th and I would say 10% of the boats either didn't have running lights or a bulb was out. Something you should really check on the busiest night of the year before going out.
We went out to watch fireworks for the 4th and I would say 10% of the boats either didn't have running lights or a bulb was out. Something you should really check on the busiest night of the year before going out.
One evening I was in the marina doing some work on my boat when a powerboat came plowing through like that, throwing a massive wake. The wake went through the marina rocking all of the boats. He must have come down the slough (no wake zone) this same way, because no sooner than he had his boat on the trailer, the lake patrol showed up in their boat, a land based patrol car showed up, and a local police car as well.
I don't know what happened or what they gave him, but he (plus wife/kids) was detained there in the marina parking lot for an hour while all of the officers talked to him, had clipboards and were writing stuff down and giving him pieces of paper....the CG Aux showed up and were climbing all over his boat...they pulled all the coolers out, emptied them and took pictures....
It was enjoyable to witness.....
My genny and number 1 jib are about a foot short and the PO had left a wire penant on the boat. Being able to see under the fore sail is great!
Personal Pet Peeve numbers 1-1000 (depending on the number tied together).
Big Weekend (ie 4th of July) Power Pilots who pull out of their slips only to run 300 yds to the neck of the marina and then raft up with the other idiots who can't properly set an anchor and have to depend on the two who have a clue to hold them still. Then they start to swing in a BIG circle. One of em clips the shore and the whole mess stops turning thus very efficiently blocking the marina entrance. And...............in conclusion, the only ones who know ANYTHING is wrong are 1) the one thats grounded, and 2) you; because you're trying to get out. Everybody else is listening to the music at a volume level rivaling a 747 at takeoff.
Big Weekend (ie 4th of July) Power Pilots who pull out of their slips only to run 300 yds to the neck of the marina and then raft up with the other idiots who can't properly set an anchor and have to depend on the two who have a clue to hold them still. Then they start to swing in a BIG circle. One of em clips the shore and the whole mess stops turning thus very efficiently blocking the marina entrance. And...............in conclusion, the only ones who know ANYTHING is wrong are 1) the one thats grounded, and 2) you; because you're trying to get out. Everybody else is listening to the music at a volume level rivaling a 747 at takeoff.
Correction: I have nothing against mooring lines left on a dock. My peeve is when they are tossed without regard and end up laying across the foot traffic areas of the dock. This is a safety issue which is easy to avoid.
We have a large number of sailboats that are sailed off the trailer and recovered back onto the trailer at the end of the day.
My peeve...is when a sailboat owner takes a long period (20 to 40 minutes) of time at the dock rigging the boat and mounting the sails while the rest of the world is waiting for the dock space and launch ramp. Then they reverse this order when pulling the boat at the end of the day.
We do our work on the trailer. Power boaters have their ways of tying up the docks too. It's all very rude.
Ray
My peeve...is when a sailboat owner takes a long period (20 to 40 minutes) of time at the dock rigging the boat and mounting the sails while the rest of the world is waiting for the dock space and launch ramp. Then they reverse this order when pulling the boat at the end of the day.
We do our work on the trailer. Power boaters have their ways of tying up the docks too. It's all very rude.
Ray
Well youall, I'd say you are trying to get 10 amps through a 5 amp fuse. It is not the fuses falt when you do that.
Now if we could locate the rascal that is putting 5 amp fuses in or 10 amp circuits.....
Now if we could locate the rascal that is putting 5 amp fuses in or 10 amp circuits.....
There is no such excuse as "out of view." If you cannot post a bow watch, you are sailing in an unsafe manner and should stay at the dock until you can right this. As it is, you are not maintaining an effective watch. Post someone at the bow if you cannot see around the sail.
Yes, this is one of my pet peves. I have nearly been run over by sailors who think this is OK or a part of sailing. I find it right up there with drunk driving; you plowing along, not seeing where you are going. I do have some low sails (different from my avitar) and when using them we post someone to leeward, as needed for each combination.
I have to agree with Thinwater, and now I am nervous ... I honestly did not realize that when it appears that one can not see us that they truly might NOT! I assume that they adjust themselves enough to be aware of everything around them as we do. We have a low sweeping 135 that we sail with most of the time and I just drive from the one side or the other so I can always see everything or my crew does. That was one of the big reasons we got our larger folding wheel ..and it works great. Where we sail is far too busy to not be aware of EVERYTHING around us all the time.
You don't have to simply agree with it or disagree with it as only a "peeve", keeping a proper lookout is your responsibility under the COLREGS. Though it certainly qualifies as a peeve when someone is not following the COLREGS
...Rule 5
Look-out Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight as well as by hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision.
i dont encounter much of the inland traffic on the pacific ocean, but when i get into a nice serene and quiet anchorage, to have someone come in and leave halyards slapping the mast is obscene. nasty and noisey-- usually only one sailboat will do this--and is obnoxious for everyone-- same goes for marinas, the few times i have endured that situation-- right now i have a next door neighbor with noisey halyards--- is always a gas with winds over 10 kts....fortunately i am only on board soul at night, so i get to deal with it. we dont have crab pots and any lobster pots are well protected here.....have occasional speeders i this well protected marina area-- they are in a speedy gonzales hurry to catch fishies.....
pair a dice is awesome!!!!!
pair a dice is awesome!!!!!
When I first started sailing my boat, my genny was a deck sweeper, draped over the pulpit and cutting off clear view to whatever tack I was on.
Now, I'm not a racer so I don't care about that last half knot of speed....and I noticed that I had quite a bit of space between the top of the mast and the head of the sail. So, I had a 28" jib pendant made up at WM....works like a charm! Lifted my sail just above the pulpit and within 6" of the top of the mast. Now I can see clearly ahead on either tack, and I really don't notice any difference in performance or sailing characteristics. Best $9 I've spent on the boat so far.
Now, I'm not a racer so I don't care about that last half knot of speed....and I noticed that I had quite a bit of space between the top of the mast and the head of the sail. So, I had a 28" jib pendant made up at WM....works like a charm! Lifted my sail just above the pulpit and within 6" of the top of the mast. Now I can see clearly ahead on either tack, and I really don't notice any difference in performance or sailing characteristics. Best $9 I've spent on the boat so far.
Maybe we're lucky, but we haven't encountered that too much. Most users rig and prep on the trailer, and tie up the ramp only to launch or retrieve.
I'd have no problem asking someone (politely) to move their boat and/or trailer if they were tying up the ramp and there were people waiting. We've also pitched in, especially when someone is launching/retrieving solo.
Boating's supposed to be fun and stress-free
people make their own stress as they become impatient with others and act out.....same as talking about drama.....most often those complaining loudest of other folks having drama also is an indicator of the drama creation inside that soul, which means added stress to that individual and impatience and the cycle propagates and flourishes..
is easy to avoid folks in an inland water by avoidance techniques-- doesnt matter who is in possession of alleged right of way etc-- just stay out of the way--is as much fault of individual being almost hit as it is the individual not paying attention. remember-- the rules say DO NOT INSIST ON RIGHT OF WAY..LOL have fun out there and be safe. KEEP YER EYES OPEN. the life you dont take could be mine some day. right now i am safe from ye!!!! i am in mexico having a great time.
is easy to avoid folks in an inland water by avoidance techniques-- doesnt matter who is in possession of alleged right of way etc-- just stay out of the way--is as much fault of individual being almost hit as it is the individual not paying attention. remember-- the rules say DO NOT INSIST ON RIGHT OF WAY..LOL have fun out there and be safe. KEEP YER EYES OPEN. the life you dont take could be mine some day. right now i am safe from ye!!!! i am in mexico having a great time.
I'm curious about the lines on the dock thing. When we stayed on a slip, we always took our docklines with us when we left and put them in a cockpit locker. All lines stayed with the boat. Why leave them on the dock? You never know when you might need them, no?
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