Sailboat Economics

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Dec 2, 2003
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John, most boats aren't a luxury item, but rather

a recreational item. And in that end, they become a necessity. Remember the luxury tax? Politicians thought boats were a luxury item and nearly killed the industry. Where was the luxury tax on motor-homes, or any other RV?
 
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John

Fred...

with all due respect, talk to all those folks out of work whom have been on the unemployment line for the three to four years the economy/market has been in the dumps. Ask them if they paid their 4000.00 to moor their boat at the marina for 5 months or paid their 800.00 to store it for the winter, or their 5000.00 per year to maintain their imaginary boat. I understand these figures are minor for a certain sector of the population. I've read many of your comments on this website, I can tell you are a very nice person, however, your perspective may be a bit effected. A boat is usually above and beyond the average middle class American standard of living. I'm certainly not saying the middleclass does not boat, the vast majority of boaters are middleclass (numbers of owners of course not size of boat). Members of the middle class however usually spend income they believe to be expendable income that really isn't expendable. The ratio of boats, cars and other expense the truly wealthy spend is usually minor in comparison to how much in assets they have in the bank, market or real estate. I have researched figures that evidence the average American spends 85-90% of their income on monthly expenses, the average wealthy American ($1,000,000 in assets and $200,000. per year in income or more spends 20-30% of their income on monthly expenses. I'm happy if your cup runneth over, good for you, however the cup doth not runneth for everyone! Luxury item, indeed it!
 

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Luxury vs Necessity

Food, clothing, a car in southern california, medicines are necessities. A boat is not a necessity, it is a luxury item. Then again, you can argue that you can't live without the country club membership, the Ferrari, and the sailboat.... then it becomes a luxury item. abe
 
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Guilty Pleasure?...Not

Work hard, raise a family, pay down debt and then buy a boat. For all of us nothing in life comes easy. Never ever feel guilty for being able to afford a boat. If we couldn't afford it we would not be here with my questions. America offers most of us the ability to make our dreams come true and that may mean purchasing a boat. How many times have we heard of someone who has worked very hard only to die young of cancer and not being able to enjoy all that life has to offer. So there is no guilt here in being able to debate the merits and economics of boat ownership. Most boat owners have worked hard and earned the right to play on the water. No guilt here...
 
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Response to guilty pleasure?

Agreed, and not to get too serious, after all, boating is for fun. However your statement "for all of us, nothing in life comes easy", I think is a naive statement. There are many in which things do come easy, I manage money for some wealthy clients who have inherited their birth right/career/retirement/estate/breeding etc. I believe that "there is no free lunch" meaning everyone pays one way or another but there are those that do come by life alot easier!
 

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May 18, 2004
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A boat is a great investment!

I bought my boat 3 years ago for $25K (O'Day 302 '88), spend $2K-$3K for winter storage, spring commission, and $1.5K for a mooring in the Mystic River. I spend as much time as possible living on the boat during our short season. My mooring is peaceful and surrounded by beautiful water views. Waterfront property in my area begins at around $1 million. My boat is not only a good investment, but a great bargain.
 
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Tom S

John of Walker Bay - Do your clients have any

hot looking daughters ;D
 
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Tom S, Stamford, CT

Tom, if you indeed live in Stamford, then you have a bevy of the same type of "hot daughters"/rich girls in your commuting-to-NYC town.
 
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Tom S

I just boat there - Live in Bergen County North NJ

which is not too shabby (Alpine, Saddle River, etc) There are some towns where the kids that go to schools around here drive Mercedes, BMW's and Range Rovers (no kidding!) But yes - Fairfield County CT with Greenwich, et. al has more than their share of girls with daddies that have a trust fund -- All this was toungue in cheek But you have to be careful in North Jersey--- some of the kids parents remind me too much of James Gandolfini --- if you know what I mean..... forgedaboudit ;)
 
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