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BarryL

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May 21, 2004
1,120
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 409 Mt. Sinai, NY
Hey,

Can anyone really be that dumb? To buy a wreck of a boat and have no idea at all? Today, there are so many ways to learn, ask questions, get opinions, etc. If that story is true, the purchaser got what he deserved.

Barry
 
Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
I had always wanted to sail. Since I was a kid and my good friend James Nelson (some might recognize him) glassed his first dingy, I had wanted to sail. But, money, kids, home, wife, food, little things like that got in the way.

In 2008, I asked my boy what he'd like to take up as a father-son interest. To my surprise, "sailing" was the answer. So I said "'&^&*()^) it!" and we just did it. We just did it. I wasn't raised in sailing, or with a father for that matter. I had nothing to go on. No one to ask. I knew nothing about sailing. All I had was a dream of cruising the coast line. So, I cast all caution to the wind, looked at a bunch of boats on Craigslist and bought one. I had no idea what I was doing, but I figured at 25 feet, it was towable and at $2200, I wasn't breaking the bank. The dream was alive. I was blessed. It turned out to be the absolute perfect boat for us. Perfect size, perfect draft, perfect weight, perfect price. Best gamble I ever made.

Some people weren't born with a Dacron spoon in their mouths but, within them yearns a mariner, straining for freedom. Grace, understanding, maybe a little elbow grease and an old compass would make better offerings than disgust and disrepute.

We learned to sail and have about 800 nm under our belts. We sailed in 30 knot winds, lost a winch, nearly lost the motor, got lost in fog, run aground, lost my boom vang in 100 feet of water . . . and had the times of our lives.

Blessings of Fair Winds!

Don
Biddeford, Maine
 

jfmid

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Jan 31, 2010
152
Oday 27 LE Manahawkin, NJ
It's truly sad. Some people just dont know how to ask the right questions. On the other hand some people will ask so many questions they never "launch" (analysis paralysis).
It's not for me to judge but perhaps this poor fellow is safer for himself and others not being out on the water just yet until he learns better judgement. It's a shame he doesn't have a mentor to bring him along.
There is a middle ground and hopefully we all can help others to avoid mistakes like this one and help spread "the dream".
 

jimmyb

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Feb 12, 2010
231
Precison 165 NA
Hey,

Can anyone really be that dumb? To buy a wreck of a boat and have no idea at all? Today, there are so many ways to learn, ask questions, get opinions, etc. If that story is true, the purchaser got what he deserved. :lame:

Barry
Barry,
I kinda think someday we will all get what we deserve. What makes the difference is a little compasion for each other along the way. If you made it throiugh life all on your own you would certainly be the first!

jimmyb
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
This is a reflection on the man's approach to life. I have seen many impulsive men married to thoughtful, careful planning women. They drive their wives to divorce by their approach to everything in life. If it seems like a "cool" idea they do it and then try to get out of the hole they dug for themselves. I had a neighbor, hard working, his wife was also hard working. If he saw a muscle car he liked he would buy it with the idea that he could detail it and sell it for a profit. It never workd out that way. She left with the kids. He played house with another woman for a while. The bank foreclosed his house. They are gone now, I know not where.
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Except for Barry, well said guys. You bleed for the guy. Or should. You want to go find him, help get rid of the problem and into a starter boat. Then watch the smile and tears the first time the wind fills the main.

P.S. Ross jumped in, so except for Barry and Ross.
 
Jan 27, 2008
3,092
ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
I think the big question is whether the story is fact or fiction. It could easily be just a story some guy made up to make a point about doing your homework before taking the test.
I suggest all of you lay off my buddy Barry, anybody sailing an O'Day 35 must be OK.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Except for Barry, well said guys. You bleed for the guy. Or should. You want to go find him, help get rid of the problem and into a starter boat. Then watch the smile and tears the first time the wind fills the main.

P.S. Ross jumped in, so except for Barry and Ross.
Ed , You haven't lived long enough if you think that this is the first costly mistake this guy has made.
 
Nov 26, 2008
1,970
Endeavour 42 Cruisin
I'll join in the skeptics list. There's dumb luck and lack of knowledge, then there's this story. According to the story, the engine was half under water & the bilge was full of a toxic soup, etc. Even I'm not THAT gullible to buy a boat like that!
 
Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
I like to give people the benefit of a doubt. At almost 70 now I have made my share of dumb moves. The boat that I own, first and last large sailboat, is probably one of those.
 
Jan 22, 2008
328
Beneteau 46 Georgetown YB
Wasn't there a posting a while back about eBay boats and the fact that they are bought 'as is - where is'? How boats donated through boat angel are sold through eBay in such a manner? Maybe this guy got snared that way. Does seem a shame though.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
In the very best of times I make about 80 dollars per hour. I can spend a lot of time looking and studying before I am willing to part with very much of it.
 
Oct 2, 2008
3,811
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Yep, regret and revenge are two of the three "R"s that can eat you up. One survey could have helped, but look at the Raw Faith story. There has to be a balance between vision and obsession, shouldn't there?
All U Get
 

Tom

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Sep 25, 2008
73
Lancer 28 T Great Lakes
well, I guess I'll be the one to ask.
What about the S.O.B that sold the boat? What rock did he climb out from under????
What kind of guy does that?


tom
s/v GAIA
 
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Mar 8, 2009
530
Catalina 22 Kemah,Texas
Ebay has a buyers protection plan for most items, wonder if there was a return policy?

And don't tell Me you never made a bonehead move yourself, even if it wasn't this brutal!

Some of you really surprised Me with your comments.

Just be glad you have had help along the way to lessen the pain of your mistakes, and thank those whose guidance helped you avoid this type of situation.

JMHO!
 
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