Hey gang! I am interested in rigging my 1985 25.5 up so that the lines at the mast are run back to the cock pit. I think its the Topping lift and out haul that are at the mast. Anyone have any experience or suggestions they can share? -- Jeremy
Running the topping lift, etc back to the cockpit
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On my 35.5
I brought the topping lift back to the cockpit. It required adding a turning blok at the mast base and a method of locking the line at the cockpit.
I brought the topping lift back to the cockpit. It required adding a turning blok at the mast base and a method of locking the line at the cockpit.
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I am guessing that I would also have to add something like a deck organizer to route the line back to the cockpit. How do you add load bearing hardware to the deck? I am assuming you have to add a backer plate of some type, but I am not sure how it's done. -- Jeremy
I am guessing that I would also have to add something like a deck organizer to route the line back to the cockpit. How do you add load bearing hardware to the deck? I am assuming you have to add a backer plate of some type, but I am not sure how it's done. -- Jeremy
On my 25.5
I'm a one season owner and on my 25.5 I have two lines internal to the boom. One is the outhaul. The other wasn't connected to anything and I always wondered what it was for. My topping lift is manually connected/released at the back of the boom. Your question got me thinking that perhaps my unknown is for the topping lift. Anyway, to answer your question I had to add two blocks... 1 at the front of the boom that leads down to the deck and a 2nd block to steer it to my deck organizer... which then brings it back to the cockpit.
I'm a one season owner and on my 25.5 I have two lines internal to the boom. One is the outhaul. The other wasn't connected to anything and I always wondered what it was for. My topping lift is manually connected/released at the back of the boom. Your question got me thinking that perhaps my unknown is for the topping lift. Anyway, to answer your question I had to add two blocks... 1 at the front of the boom that leads down to the deck and a 2nd block to steer it to my deck organizer... which then brings it back to the cockpit.
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Block and cam cleat on the end of the boom works very well. The adjustment is right over your head. This leaves the deck clutter to jiffy reefing lines that seem to take up a lot of space.
Block and cam cleat on the end of the boom works very well. The adjustment is right over your head. This leaves the deck clutter to jiffy reefing lines that seem to take up a lot of space.
Jeremy, I prefer Doug's solution, which...
we have on our boat. Running the working end from the mast into the cockpit requires taking up an organizer sheave, line stopper and winch space. Placing the working end at the end of the boom like on our boat only requires a block with integrated cam cleat and fiddle. I picked up a pair of used ones from our local marine exchange. It took two for our boat because I needed an additional purchase to handle the boom weight. One should suffice for your boat. Originally, the PO had the working end run into the cockpit through an organizer. Doug's solution freed up an organizer and line stopper for our new asym chute halyard. Terry
we have on our boat. Running the working end from the mast into the cockpit requires taking up an organizer sheave, line stopper and winch space. Placing the working end at the end of the boom like on our boat only requires a block with integrated cam cleat and fiddle. I picked up a pair of used ones from our local marine exchange. It took two for our boat because I needed an additional purchase to handle the boom weight. One should suffice for your boat. Originally, the PO had the working end run into the cockpit through an organizer. Doug's solution freed up an organizer and line stopper for our new asym chute halyard. Terry
I am not sure....
I understand exactly what you guys are describing. The line runs down the boom and then you mount a cleat at the end of the boom? I would be installing another deck organizer on the opposite side of where the halyards are running. I figured I would run the other line thats at the mast back to the cockpit I am not sure if it's the outhaul or a reefing line. what about the Vang? I don't really use the vang, but maybe I will learn if I didn't have to crawl up to the mast to use it. Of course I wouldn't be able to use it as a preventor, but I haven't used it for that purpose yet either. -- Jeremy
I understand exactly what you guys are describing. The line runs down the boom and then you mount a cleat at the end of the boom? I would be installing another deck organizer on the opposite side of where the halyards are running. I figured I would run the other line thats at the mast back to the cockpit I am not sure if it's the outhaul or a reefing line. what about the Vang? I don't really use the vang, but maybe I will learn if I didn't have to crawl up to the mast to use it. Of course I wouldn't be able to use it as a preventor, but I haven't used it for that purpose yet either. -- Jeremy
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If you need to run your topping lift back along the deck you can just secure it to the deck with sheet metal screws (no need for a backing plate). A topping lift has very little load and the amount of force at a deck mounted turning block would be neglegable. Definately run your vang back. This is a sail control that far too many sailors overlook.
If you need to run your topping lift back along the deck you can just secure it to the deck with sheet metal screws (no need for a backing plate). A topping lift has very little load and the amount of force at a deck mounted turning block would be neglegable. Definately run your vang back. This is a sail control that far too many sailors overlook.
Jeremy, okay, the bitter end of our ...
topping lift is secured to a cleat mounted on the mast at boom level. This is the non-working end. I never need to adjust this end, but it is there if I need it. Of course from this end it runs up the mast, through a sheave at the top of the mast and down to a point at the end of the boom. The PO had the bitter end secured at the end of the boom to a shackle with the working end at the boom mast joint. After we purchased the boat I run the working end into the cockpit thus taking up an organizer sheave and line stopper. Since I needed to vacate a line stopper for the spinnaker halyard I decided to move the working end of the topping lift from the cockpit to the end of the boom. All I did to accomplish this was to make the mast boom cleat end the bitter (non-working) end and the end of the boom the working end. To make it work all I did was to connect one fiddle block to the end of the boom, then run the topping lift line through it to another fiddle block with integrated jam cleat. That way I can trim or ease the topping lift from this end. You could probably get by with one fiddle block with integrated jam cleat on your boat because your boom weighs much less than ours. Hope this helps. Terry
topping lift is secured to a cleat mounted on the mast at boom level. This is the non-working end. I never need to adjust this end, but it is there if I need it. Of course from this end it runs up the mast, through a sheave at the top of the mast and down to a point at the end of the boom. The PO had the bitter end secured at the end of the boom to a shackle with the working end at the boom mast joint. After we purchased the boat I run the working end into the cockpit thus taking up an organizer sheave and line stopper. Since I needed to vacate a line stopper for the spinnaker halyard I decided to move the working end of the topping lift from the cockpit to the end of the boom. All I did to accomplish this was to make the mast boom cleat end the bitter (non-working) end and the end of the boom the working end. To make it work all I did was to connect one fiddle block to the end of the boom, then run the topping lift line through it to another fiddle block with integrated jam cleat. That way I can trim or ease the topping lift from this end. You could probably get by with one fiddle block with integrated jam cleat on your boat because your boom weighs much less than ours. Hope this helps. Terry
A couple of more questions
Althought I see the beauty in the simplicity of runnung the topping lift down the boom. I am thinking I will run the topping lift, the outhaul, and the Vang all back to the cockpit. Do you use something like this to make the transiton from the mast to the deck organizer? http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=20 I see in jims picture he has some blocks that look like they tie into the deck stepped mast bolts. Also what about cleats or clutches for the outhaul and the topping lift I think on my boat they are a smalled diameter line? I am also wondering if they are long enough to make it back to the cockpit. Any thoughts? -- Jeremy
Althought I see the beauty in the simplicity of runnung the topping lift down the boom. I am thinking I will run the topping lift, the outhaul, and the Vang all back to the cockpit. Do you use something like this to make the transiton from the mast to the deck organizer? http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=20 I see in jims picture he has some blocks that look like they tie into the deck stepped mast bolts. Also what about cleats or clutches for the outhaul and the topping lift I think on my boat they are a smalled diameter line? I am also wondering if they are long enough to make it back to the cockpit. Any thoughts? -- Jeremy
Answer for Bob...
You mentioned the two lines internal to the boom. One is the outhaul, and I believe that the other is for reefing...
You mentioned the two lines internal to the boom. One is the outhaul, and I believe that the other is for reefing...
Attaching cleat to boom?
What's the best way to attach a cleat to a boom? Anyone have any pictures of this type of installation? -- Jeremy
What's the best way to attach a cleat to a boom? Anyone have any pictures of this type of installation? -- Jeremy
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