Rudder slipping

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Rick

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Oct 5, 2004
1,098
Hunter 420 Passage San Diego
The rudder on our Hunter 31 is beginning to slip. I can hold the wheel and the rudder will turn. Is there a way to tighten the rudder or the connection? The river here is very shallow and we run into muck a lot. When this happens it turns the rudder and we go in circles. The wheel assembly seems ok as well as the cables beneath the cockpit. Thanks in advance rick rah0218@hotmail.com
 
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Jim McCue

Slipping rudder

I have h28.5. Beyond tensioning the cables in the steering "complex" , I believe that there is a large wheel/torqueing cam that uses the rudder shaft as its center pivot. Perhaps you are slipping because the fastening bolts on that cam "collar" around the rudder shaft is not firmly tightened. Jim McCue
 
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Kenny Logsdon

Sounds like something is broken

Rick, I have 28.5 and have had my steering completely apart. The steering quadrant is bolted through the rudder stock. If this bolt is broken the rudder will slip badly. Also there is a pin thru the sprocket that the steering wheel shaft passes through. This could also be sheered causing a slip. These are the only two areas I know of that can cause a slip. You may test by having someone turn the wheel while you watch the steering quadrant. If the quandrant turns while the wheel is turned, the the slip is occurring between the quadrant and the rudder stock, if the quadrant doesn't turn, the the slip is at the wheel shaft. If you need to dismantle the rudder, you can do so while in the water. The rudder is slightly postively bouyant and should not fall out. Good luck.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
Remove the cover!

Rick: I would remove the cover under the steering quadrant. I am sure that you will be able to see something amuck in the steering system. We adjusted our cables last year because the autopilot was wandering and it worked well. Like the others have said, not too much there to go wrong. Couple of bolts and pins and the steering cable. The only other area to check is the pin that holds the gear in the head of the pedestal.
 
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Paul W.

buoyant rudder

Secure a safety line on the rudder to be sure. It may have lost buoyancy if it has any water infiltration thru the skin or damaged areas from grounding. Better safe than diving.
 
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Tom Payne

Be Careful

Rick, I had the same symptoms about 9 months ago. I ended up losing complete rudder control doing 5 knots in the bay. Bam, the next thing I know, I am doing donuts. I was very, very lucky it happen in open water. I had a hard grounding, combined with electrolicis, I broke my rudder stock and had to replace, (thank god for insurance) the whole rudder. You might go in the water, hold the rudder between your legs and have a friend turn your wheel. If the cables are secure and working right, then you could have something broken inside the rudder. You mentioned you run your 31 aground, insurance covered my grounding and replaced the whole rudder. If I were in your situation, I would check my complete stearing sytem, if OK, I would then do the test I mentioned, if their is play in the rudder, I would pull the boat and then have it checked. I tried scuba gear, underwater flash lights, and still could not see the broken rudder shaft. But after my donuts, and my rudder breaking off, (it does float) I then saw the rip at the end of the rudder stock, right where it entered the rudder. I still thank god for my donuts happening in open water and not in tight quaters, or as I was being passed by a scarf. Pull the boat, have it checked, have insurance pay for the accidential grounding, and start sailing again as soon as possible. Good Luck!!! Daddy's Dream
 

Rick

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Oct 5, 2004
1,098
Hunter 420 Passage San Diego
Thanks for all the input -

Everything inside the boat is stationary and the rudder will move. Looks like it is the rudder. The rudder and shaft are all one unit, as Hunter said. So... I guess I need a replacement rudder. Thanks for all your help. rick
 
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