Rubber Fatigue, Keel Rollers

Spence

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Sep 29, 2013
57
Sloop Halman 20 Marina
The 8" rubber keel rollers on my trailer are starting to show their fatigue of having
the boat rest on them during off seasons. These rollers are made overseas and molded
over a thin steel tube. Mine have plastic end bearings, themselves of questionable life spans.
A 5/8" rod is passed through to the opposite end bearing and is not centrally supported by any bearing.

My first roller, from the aft end of trailer as reference, receives the prow of the boat when hauling out. Initially the load on roller 1 is considerable as it is almost dead on. The prow
slowly creeps up this roller, then on to the rail unit and works it's way along the other rollers.

I have found that I can strengthen the center of roller 1 with regular FG body filler mixed in with cleaned strands of SS wool and course FB cloth threads.

I light a candle and smoke up the center of the steel rod and give it a thorough coat of burnt wax. I put the rod into the roller assemble. I slide a piece of cardboard that fits snuggly against the steel tube, as a stopper onto the rod and work it up the steel tube and rod until until it's about 1" from center. I use a stick for this. From the same end, I put on the regular plastic bearing and push that onto the end of the roller. I then mix enough filler and hardener with SS and fiber and pour it into the cavity until it is about 2 inches thick, being carefull I don't get FG on the upper part of the steel rod(can put a plastic sleeve over it if need be). The mix settles onto the cardboard stopper and forms a container bottom. I generally give ia few taps to settle it out, then remove the sleeve if there is one, then put on the opposite bearing and insert it in the roller.

The glass is so thick it won't leak, but harden quickly. The wax on the rod prevents sticking and forms a lubricant. The glass plug that is created bonds to the steel pipe, but not to the
rod. I intend to do the same on my central roller also to help hold the dead weight. Now the center of the roller is supported and can take the extra shock or fatigue load.

A picture is included.
 

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Jun 8, 2004
10,373
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when customers came to me with their trailers and fatique shown on the rollers over use in time, I would suggest to replace them as they do not cost that much and they could do it themselves.
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
That sounds like a total PITA to have to do that. I never heard of any other folks I know having to do that, out of people with Precision 23s or Com-Pac 23s... I certainly haven't done anything like that for my little 18.5' boat...

I had black rubber rollers on my 15' daysailer. I got tired of them marking up the hull as they aged, so I replaced them with creamy colored thermoplastic rollers, even though I knew they wouldn't last too long.

If I had your boat, I'd consider 8" polyurethane steel reinforced rollers like this one: http://www.easternmarine.com/8-stoltz-polyurethane-keel-roller-5-8-id-rp8
 
Dec 28, 2009
397
Macgregor M25 trailer
The rollers are supposed be loose onthe shaft so they can rock to follow the change of angles as they roll. The rubber ones have about a 5 year life, I chsnged the ones on my Gradey trailer to Stolz urethane 14 years ago tha they are like new.
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
My 1989 Performance Trailer for my 1989 Compac 23 has the rollers. They are okay.

Remember that if your boat is off of the trailer for the season the sun can eat these rollers up. The sun is the #1 enemy here....same with your tires. It is best to have a shady area or cover them with a board if the trailer sits in the sun.

Other thing is that I never use the rollers to roll the boat on the trailer. I get deep enough to float the boat onto the trailer. I rarely crank the trailer winch. Not sure if that helps them last longer.
 

Spence

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Sep 29, 2013
57
Sloop Halman 20 Marina
Thanks for the link. All the same these are 1/32 tubing carrying a dead weight of 1000's of pounds on a center span of 5"(on the 10" roller). This is an engineering failure waiting to happen. When it bends, the rubber starts to crack and that's what I'm trying to prevent.

The added support plug relieves that stress and instead of bending, the weight is carried directly to the 5/8 rod. Some people here think I mean to treat all of them. What I did was treat the first, middle and front roller. Hardly takes any effort at all, and i did mine downing a pina colada in the sun and enjoying myself.
 
Nov 9, 2012
2,500
Oday 192 Lake Nockamixon
What?!? "While downing a piña colada in the sun and enjoying myself"?????

Well good on ya, Spence! :D:D:D
 
Jun 8, 2004
10,373
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Spence;

The suggestions to replace are all good vs. your approach. You do want some give in the rollers vs. stiff. I advocate the rollers that are yellow for strength and longevity. I am giving you sound advice as having been a former sailboat dealer who also designed trailers along with Ron Frisosky (deceased) who designed a majority of them for Performance and Road King. The cost of the rollers is not that much anyway.
 
Jun 4, 2015
18
Pearson Electra Central Pa
I just finished inspecting a regional sewer system and as the contractor finished, I asked for the scraps of underground plastic pipe, and have possibly two hundred feet in two-to-five foot sections. This is High Density PolyEthylene - HDPE, and I got scraps of 1-1/4" ID, 2" ID and 4" ID. I plan to build rollers from these sizes for different applications on my Electra's cradle. Where pipe supply centers have remnants, this pipe can be bought by the foot and can usually be found in 20 ft. lengths. The HDPE does not rot or age like natural rubber, is slippery by intent and if bought as pipe, is fairly cheap. HDPE should last three decades in salt or fresh water.
I expect depression memory to be significant, so there is a downside to this material. My 3000# Electra should roll them anyway if they are closely spaced.
Steel axle shaft size is clearly indexed to pipe ID. HDPE OD varies slightly for application, so measure twice prior to cutting. I will update in a separate discussion with shaft-bearing selection and assembly details for the keel rollers.
 
Aug 15, 2012
301
Precision 21 Newburyport MA
I would suggest using some of the pipe to fashion guide posts for the trailer.
 
Jun 4, 2015
18
Pearson Electra Central Pa
Tom G. - Yes, the Electra has a beefy fixed-keel so it gets indexing guides to safely roll it aboard. Not sure of the final geometry, but they will be there to keep it upright for the entire transition!