I bought my 1977 O'day 25 about a year and a half ago. I only paid $2,500.00 for it. It came with a new Johnson 8HP. However, both bulkheads were rotted out. Being a carpenter I was able to replace both for very little cost. My questions are basically, did I spend too much? Also are these rotted bulkheads a common thing in O'day? Thanks for the response.
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Pete Osborn
sounds like a snip!
At 2500 bucks sounds good value to me! Quite often the straps, that support the side stays are not sealed properly and water damges the ply bulkheads. Question, if it was the bulheads that seperate heads from main cabin did you unstep the mast?
At 2500 bucks sounds good value to me! Quite often the straps, that support the side stays are not sealed properly and water damges the ply bulkheads. Question, if it was the bulheads that seperate heads from main cabin did you unstep the mast?
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Rob
COMPLETE REMOVAL
Actually I gutted the entire cabin. Meaning I had to step the mast. I made templates for the new bulkheads, used west system on marine grade plywood, and reinstalled the new bulkheads. This also allowed me to modernize the cabin on my O'day 25. Thanks for asking.
Actually I gutted the entire cabin. Meaning I had to step the mast. I made templates for the new bulkheads, used west system on marine grade plywood, and reinstalled the new bulkheads. This also allowed me to modernize the cabin on my O'day 25. Thanks for asking.
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Sean
Don't sweat it...
Hello, If you pulled a 25' for same, you got a pretty sweet deal, assuming a suit of sails and all rigging... The trouble you had was, and I think I am repeating someone elses bit, is the bloody chainplates being fastened to the bulkheads, its a good compromise from a builders standpoint, but you do have to keep them sealed at the deck to prevent seepage to, well, the bulkheads... Do that, and you are fine, although if your bulkheads were rotted out, I would be suspect of the core at the chainplate bolts, BUT - don't get paranoid... Tell us if you lowered the rig and rebedded the chainplates, then all will be well, there is a tremendous amount of glass with the deck - deck skin and then the liner that that those bolts pass thru, but they will compress a 'wet' core, (not rotten), just like an I/O plate on a powerboat... If you are curious and have access, drill a 1/8" hole from inside up thru the liner and deck skin glass near a bolt, feel when you hit the core, don't go thru the outer deck... Pull out the drill and check what you have, most likely a wet core, but heh, old boats... Also tighten up one of the chainplate nuts, and see if their is a big squirt... To be honest, a lot of people are going to tell you that you have a rotten hulk, but phooey, if you knew the layup schedule of most older Odays, and you are not getting a stupid amount a fresh bilge water, then do what you think is right, keep asking questions, and go sailing... Have fun... SH - herrons@telus.net
Hello, If you pulled a 25' for same, you got a pretty sweet deal, assuming a suit of sails and all rigging... The trouble you had was, and I think I am repeating someone elses bit, is the bloody chainplates being fastened to the bulkheads, its a good compromise from a builders standpoint, but you do have to keep them sealed at the deck to prevent seepage to, well, the bulkheads... Do that, and you are fine, although if your bulkheads were rotted out, I would be suspect of the core at the chainplate bolts, BUT - don't get paranoid... Tell us if you lowered the rig and rebedded the chainplates, then all will be well, there is a tremendous amount of glass with the deck - deck skin and then the liner that that those bolts pass thru, but they will compress a 'wet' core, (not rotten), just like an I/O plate on a powerboat... If you are curious and have access, drill a 1/8" hole from inside up thru the liner and deck skin glass near a bolt, feel when you hit the core, don't go thru the outer deck... Pull out the drill and check what you have, most likely a wet core, but heh, old boats... Also tighten up one of the chainplate nuts, and see if their is a big squirt... To be honest, a lot of people are going to tell you that you have a rotten hulk, but phooey, if you knew the layup schedule of most older Odays, and you are not getting a stupid amount a fresh bilge water, then do what you think is right, keep asking questions, and go sailing... Have fun... SH - herrons@telus.net
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BRUCE CUTCLIFFE
COMMON PROBLEM
Rob: Just to confirm what I believe you have already heard. I have owned four O'Day's; 17, 19, 23 & 26. Of course, there are no bulkheads in the 17 or 19, but I did have to replace both in the 1985 O'Day 23. The boat itself was in excellent condition, but the prior owner apparently never monitored the seal of the chainplates. As the chainplates are anchored to the bulkheads, absent a good seal between the plates and deck will allow water to seep down to the teak laminated plywood. Unfortunately, the damage is not always visable. If it will make you feel any better, I paid $1,200 (3 years ago) to have both bulkheads replaced after the strap anchoring the port chainplate pulled through the deak following a rather mild accidential jibe. The yard wanted to modify the anchoring system by securing the clainplates to the hull, but as I was selling the boat I elected to restore as original. While the O'Day is probably a Chevrolet of production sailboats, you do get a lot for your money and it sounds like you certainly got a plenty for yours. Best wishes for an excellent 2003 sailing season! Bruce C.
Rob: Just to confirm what I believe you have already heard. I have owned four O'Day's; 17, 19, 23 & 26. Of course, there are no bulkheads in the 17 or 19, but I did have to replace both in the 1985 O'Day 23. The boat itself was in excellent condition, but the prior owner apparently never monitored the seal of the chainplates. As the chainplates are anchored to the bulkheads, absent a good seal between the plates and deck will allow water to seep down to the teak laminated plywood. Unfortunately, the damage is not always visable. If it will make you feel any better, I paid $1,200 (3 years ago) to have both bulkheads replaced after the strap anchoring the port chainplate pulled through the deak following a rather mild accidential jibe. The yard wanted to modify the anchoring system by securing the clainplates to the hull, but as I was selling the boat I elected to restore as original. While the O'Day is probably a Chevrolet of production sailboats, you do get a lot for your money and it sounds like you certainly got a plenty for yours. Best wishes for an excellent 2003 sailing season! Bruce C.
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Paul
checking for rot?
I have 25 O'Day in excellent condition. Its a fin keel and on average during the season I remove less than a gallon from the bilge. I can go a week or two without having anything in the bilge. How do I inspect for weakened chainplates or rot in the bulkheads. My previous boat I replaced and reglassed the bulkheads but it was readily apparent because everything was visible (Clipper Marine 21).
I have 25 O'Day in excellent condition. Its a fin keel and on average during the season I remove less than a gallon from the bilge. I can go a week or two without having anything in the bilge. How do I inspect for weakened chainplates or rot in the bulkheads. My previous boat I replaced and reglassed the bulkheads but it was readily apparent because everything was visible (Clipper Marine 21).
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Rob
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I have no photos at this time to post. If you can give me a couple weeks I can provide them. Thanks for the reponses. By the way, if your ever in Newport look out for a red hulled 77 O'DAY called GURUS METHOD. Fast as hell in 10 to 15.
I have no photos at this time to post. If you can give me a couple weeks I can provide them. Thanks for the reponses. By the way, if your ever in Newport look out for a red hulled 77 O'DAY called GURUS METHOD. Fast as hell in 10 to 15.
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