How Many people who cruise and club race usse roller furling, ? I am a cruiser at heart but recently participated in a regatta /race and want to do more but do not want a full blown race boat,so , speak up Have heard roller furling is not way to go, , ?? MIke B
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Andy Falls
One furler/racer
I race with the furler and take my lumps! There are some furlers that have a quick detach drum so you can switch to a deck sweeping racing sail. I think you still have to use the foiler but it adds some sail area (down low to make it go!)
I race with the furler and take my lumps! There are some furlers that have a quick detach drum so you can switch to a deck sweeping racing sail. I think you still have to use the foiler but it adds some sail area (down low to make it go!)
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Ken Palmer
Roller furling on my H33
I club race Liberty every Tuesday night. She has a CDC roller furling with a radial cut laminated 150% genoa by North. I keep up with the other boats most of the time, and even win a few when I sail smartly. You would have a choice of lighter or high-tech sails by not furling. I think that my sail described above is about the best bet for racing/cruising. By the way, I sail in a genoa-only fleet with a RHRF of 180. Ken Palmer, S/V Liberty
I club race Liberty every Tuesday night. She has a CDC roller furling with a radial cut laminated 150% genoa by North. I keep up with the other boats most of the time, and even win a few when I sail smartly. You would have a choice of lighter or high-tech sails by not furling. I think that my sail described above is about the best bet for racing/cruising. By the way, I sail in a genoa-only fleet with a RHRF of 180. Ken Palmer, S/V Liberty
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Steve
Cruising Class
I race the local club races in my H320, and it has a roller furling 110 jib. The local club races are main/jib, but I can use an asymetrical on the longer special races. I am new, so I am just getting to the point where I am staying with the pack. The furling only really effects me in light wind by having the heavy sail on. The furling jib does give 3 seconds on the PHRF rating.
I race the local club races in my H320, and it has a roller furling 110 jib. The local club races are main/jib, but I can use an asymetrical on the longer special races. I am new, so I am just getting to the point where I am staying with the pack. The furling only really effects me in light wind by having the heavy sail on. The furling jib does give 3 seconds on the PHRF rating.
Racing/furling question.
Does anyone have any experience with a headfoil on the furler that allows you to slide the sail down off it and/or slide up another one in another track? I have not experienced one of these in a while-- forgive me for being clueless but I really don't understand from the literature I have if the modern systems let you do this. If not, they should. Now how does this impact racing ratings? If anyone's got a clue here please let me know because I am close to shopping components for a new (old) boat, which has a bowspirt (necessitating a furler) but which I will definitely race. JC 2
Does anyone have any experience with a headfoil on the furler that allows you to slide the sail down off it and/or slide up another one in another track? I have not experienced one of these in a while-- forgive me for being clueless but I really don't understand from the literature I have if the modern systems let you do this. If not, they should. Now how does this impact racing ratings? If anyone's got a clue here please let me know because I am close to shopping components for a new (old) boat, which has a bowspirt (necessitating a furler) but which I will definitely race. JC 2
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Tim Schaaf
Double grooved furler for JCII
I have an old, bullet-proof, hell for stout Famet furler. These came with twin grooves. Since the halyard is integral to the furler (comes down the other side of the extrusion), you had to order a second halyard, if you were going to fly AND FURL twin headsails. Although these furlers are almost failsafe, they are pretty darned heavy, and it is a bitch to raise a sail while underway, given the position of the halyard. However, you can, quite easily, use it just as a headfoil, and raise a headsail with a normal halyard. You just can't use it as a furler. I have rigged up various blocks, etc., to improve on the existing system, but using the integral halyard would never be quick enough for racing. Using the boat's regular halyard might be, however. In practice, I leave a 120 permanently on the furler, raise a 110 with the normal halyard, if I want to fly twins, and fly a storm jib from an interior stay, tacked to a three legged bridle attached to the old stem fitting, and the toerail on either side of the aft bulkhead of the anchor locker. This is on the H33, by the way. Famet was recently resurrected, by the way, and still makes these furlers, which have never yet had a major, blue water failure. But they ARE heavy!!
I have an old, bullet-proof, hell for stout Famet furler. These came with twin grooves. Since the halyard is integral to the furler (comes down the other side of the extrusion), you had to order a second halyard, if you were going to fly AND FURL twin headsails. Although these furlers are almost failsafe, they are pretty darned heavy, and it is a bitch to raise a sail while underway, given the position of the halyard. However, you can, quite easily, use it just as a headfoil, and raise a headsail with a normal halyard. You just can't use it as a furler. I have rigged up various blocks, etc., to improve on the existing system, but using the integral halyard would never be quick enough for racing. Using the boat's regular halyard might be, however. In practice, I leave a 120 permanently on the furler, raise a 110 with the normal halyard, if I want to fly twins, and fly a storm jib from an interior stay, tacked to a three legged bridle attached to the old stem fitting, and the toerail on either side of the aft bulkhead of the anchor locker. This is on the H33, by the way. Famet was recently resurrected, by the way, and still makes these furlers, which have never yet had a major, blue water failure. But they ARE heavy!!
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Mike Cummings
Just Switched!
I have the orginal furler on mine with the internal halyard. Just purchased a sail that was lightly used with no suncover and what a difference. I tack it the deck an hoisted it up with a normal halyard. Left the internal halyard tied to the furler. What a difference, first time we used it we came in first and outpointed everybody. If you want to race, the three seconds for the furler are not worth it. Kept the old sail so that when we want to just go out we hoist it up normal and have the ability to roll it up when we come back.
I have the orginal furler on mine with the internal halyard. Just purchased a sail that was lightly used with no suncover and what a difference. I tack it the deck an hoisted it up with a normal halyard. Left the internal halyard tied to the furler. What a difference, first time we used it we came in first and outpointed everybody. If you want to race, the three seconds for the furler are not worth it. Kept the old sail so that when we want to just go out we hoist it up normal and have the ability to roll it up when we come back.
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Steve Kratchman
Furler
2 questions: 1-How do you set up the mast when you are going to do your spring put-in? Straight up, raked back? 2-How does your forestay react in winds? Has it slack and curves so you're pointing must be off? When putting on my new sails I changed my mast setting and cannot seem to replace it the way I had it when winning the Spring races. I need some help in reasurring myself I am not stupid and my boat is not slow!!
2 questions: 1-How do you set up the mast when you are going to do your spring put-in? Straight up, raked back? 2-How does your forestay react in winds? Has it slack and curves so you're pointing must be off? When putting on my new sails I changed my mast setting and cannot seem to replace it the way I had it when winning the Spring races. I need some help in reasurring myself I am not stupid and my boat is not slow!!
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Ben
stick with the furling
I've Harken Furling on my 1978 33 and I race her hard. The furling comes in very handy on short bouy racing because there is no take down, just roll the jib up from the cockpit after the chute is set. For longer races I just lower the hoist swivel below the entry slot and I now have a two track foil for sail changes. Works really well. As well it comes in handy for convincing others to drop there chute early. Just roll yours out like your going to drop then roll it back up when you've conviced your competition, I've used this one to great rewards.
I've Harken Furling on my 1978 33 and I race her hard. The furling comes in very handy on short bouy racing because there is no take down, just roll the jib up from the cockpit after the chute is set. For longer races I just lower the hoist swivel below the entry slot and I now have a two track foil for sail changes. Works really well. As well it comes in handy for convincing others to drop there chute early. Just roll yours out like your going to drop then roll it back up when you've conviced your competition, I've used this one to great rewards.
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