I just bought a catalina 22 that came with a big genoa. I want to get roller furling for the boat but do you have to order a new sail along with a roller furler or is there a way to attach it to your current sail?
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Is CDI a brand or what? What other inexpensive types would work to not require modification of the sail?
I'm a bit of the "old world type" and have always prefered hank on sails on smaller boats.
When we sailed our IP 38 we had furling sails for the 135% genny and for the stay sail. Both sails required UV protection as do all furling sails that are left furled on the forestay. They also weighed to much to allow easy changing out.
Now for smaller boats. I had a 1979 C22 that I loved and sailed very hard and sailed alot. Like 3 to 4 times a week in season. (March to October). I had a 150 genny, a 125 genny, a 110 jib and a drifter which is a 1.5oz hank on light wind sail. This selection of sails let me sail in any wind conditions and allowed the changing of sails as the wind changed. Changing sails could be done in 5 minutes.
Having a roller furling head sail on a C22 is very limiting. If the sail is a 150% then the weight of the Sunbrella UV protection will cause the sail to collapse in light winds and the sail will be way to big for higher winds. Additionally, furling a (150) larger sail down to say a 135 works fairly well but furling it any further will simply destroy performance. If the headsail is a 110 jib then you are limited when sailing in small winds but perfect in stronger breezes.
I currently sail a San Juan 23 with 5 headsails and she is truly a thing of beauty. By having a selection of sails and the ability to change to another sail quickly has made the boat fun all the time.
Ray
When we sailed our IP 38 we had furling sails for the 135% genny and for the stay sail. Both sails required UV protection as do all furling sails that are left furled on the forestay. They also weighed to much to allow easy changing out.
Now for smaller boats. I had a 1979 C22 that I loved and sailed very hard and sailed alot. Like 3 to 4 times a week in season. (March to October). I had a 150 genny, a 125 genny, a 110 jib and a drifter which is a 1.5oz hank on light wind sail. This selection of sails let me sail in any wind conditions and allowed the changing of sails as the wind changed. Changing sails could be done in 5 minutes.
Having a roller furling head sail on a C22 is very limiting. If the sail is a 150% then the weight of the Sunbrella UV protection will cause the sail to collapse in light winds and the sail will be way to big for higher winds. Additionally, furling a (150) larger sail down to say a 135 works fairly well but furling it any further will simply destroy performance. If the headsail is a 110 jib then you are limited when sailing in small winds but perfect in stronger breezes.
I currently sail a San Juan 23 with 5 headsails and she is truly a thing of beauty. By having a selection of sails and the ability to change to another sail quickly has made the boat fun all the time.
Ray
I'm trailering my boat so I probably wont have any UV fabric sewn on to weigh it down. Also, I probably misspoke when I said it was a large genoa; it's probably 110. Do you still think it's not worth it to get roller furling? It seems a lot more convenient and safe-because no one has to go forward during heavy weather and because reducing the sail area can be quick. Is this a correct assumption?
My original C-22 had a hank-on 95%, 110, and a 150. We used a down-haul and it worked fine to get the sail down quickly. Just back-wind the sail and loosen the halyard and pull the down-haul, simple and cheap. I did the same set-up when we had our Capri-18. Our current C-22 has a 150 with a CDI roller furler, and I must say, I really like it. On real windy days, we've just used the genoa, and was amazed how well the boat performed with minimal healing. But as mentioned, you're only good to furl down the 150 to about a 135 effectively. But what we do is if the wind is too strong for the main and 150,(and the boat will take a lot of wind), we'll either just use the main or genoa only, and if it gets too strong for that, I'm not too proud to use the iron genny. If the wind is light, I can furl the genny and hoist a drifter. Another option you could do is to install the Harkin small boat furler. It replaces the forestay, and there is a slight modification to the jib to install a wire up the luff. A friend uses this set-up on his O-Day 192 and it allows him to remove the jib for trailering, and you don't have the weight of the sun shield on the foot and leech. Harken makes a unit designed to be used for boats up to 25', which would be plenty strong for a C-22 I would think. There is no reefing with this set-up, just furling. Just a thought....
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I love my roller furling. Easier to single hand, easier to reef, quicker to leave the dock. I have a 130, it furls down to the mast with reasonable shape, at which point it is a pretty good storm sail. I would avoid a 150 unless you are willing to change sails when it pipes up AND have good crew to help tack the bear.
The CDI is a good furler at a low price. More money buys better furlers, but most of them are not as easy to trailer with.
The UV material on most roller furler sails is a problem - so don't let the sailmaker install the UV sun shield on the sail. Either take the sail off (PIA on a CDI), or have a Sunbrella cover (Catalina Direct sells one) to cover the sail with when it is up and not in use.
CDI: http://www.sailcdi.com/
Catalina Direct: http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=711&ParentCat=171
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