roller furler

justsomeguy · Jan 12, 2014

Chasemixon said:
Well now I've gone and done it to quote a friend...

So as you can see I broke my jib roller furler cable... I'm hoping this is a pretty easy fix? I was attempting to twist the cable so it would have tension on the jib and roll it back in? Is that how it works? HELP!

No, that's not how it works.

It appears you've broken your forestay, the part that keeps your mast from crashing down onto the cockpit.

www.sailcdi.com/ffmain.htm

justsomeguy · Jan 12, 2014

Chasemixon said:
Ok maybe, but this cable goes down the center of the jib? Is that the forestay?

I'm pretty sure the cable (forestay) is supposed to be housed within the furler's foil (or "luff"). The foil rotates around it.

Tom J · Jan 12, 2014

Chasemixon said:
Well now I've gone and done it to quote a friend...

So as you can see I broke my jib roller furler cable... I'm hoping this is a pretty easy fix? I was attempting to twist the cable so it would have tension on the jib and roll it back in? Is that how it works? HELP!

You raise the jib once the furler is installed on the forestay. The furling line will be already rolled onto the flurler's drum. Once the jib is raised, you will pull on the furling line to furl the jib. To deploy the jib, pull on the jib sheet and feed the furling line onto the drum. It's best to keep some tension on the furling line. There is no spring tension on the furler, which is what I think you are implying.

Crazy Dave Condon · Jan 13, 2014

Chasemixon;

Your furling system appears to be a #2 CDI flexible furler system on the Hunter 22 forestay. The forestay goes thru the plastic extrusion. The extrusion has it's own jib halyard as the standard jib halyard is not used for raising the jib. The bottom drum housing is secured and stationary while internal drum turns freely. The internal drum sits on top of a plastic delrin piece to allow it to turn where the bottom of the extrusion sits in.
The internal halyard raises the sail while the bottom of the sail is tied to the top or the turning drum unit.

Essentially, the forestay running thru the extrusion should not be turning which is the cause of your failure. You need to identify what caused that forestay to turn as something was snagging the forestay to turn. In some cases I saw the standard jib halyard on the mast used, tension on the forestay loose, the bottom tie down on the sail pulled too much down, bottom drum not turning, etc....
I would suggest someone to help you that knows that system.

Before putting the jib back on, turn the furler to see if it rolls around easily. Also make sure the turnbuckle body inside the drum is securely pinned with stainless steel cotter pins and not just regular steel cotter pins. When I said pulling the sail down whn securing the bottom of the sail to the drum, pull it taunt until you see ruffles in the sail along the extrusion and then back off until most of the ruffling is gone. If pulled too hard, then the sail in a sense becomes the forestay.

I hope this helps a little better on explanation.

crazy dave condon

Brian M H23 · Jan 13, 2014

You pull the line out to furl the jib, you pull the jib out to coil the line. The cable, your forestay, should NOT be twisting.

justsomeguy · Jan 13, 2014

Have you read the manual yet?

CaptDon01 · Jan 13, 2014

Is it possible that the plastic luff extrusion is not straight? Many are left without being supported while the boat is de-rigged and it doesn't take very long, especially if you live in a sunny environment, for the plastic extrusion to develope bends. When it gets bent, it drags on the forestay, and can damage the cable inside by twisting it. I recently purchased a boat with a CDI furler and 6 of the 19 strands of the cable were broken from being twisted. Also, read the CDI instructions, they require a toggle at the top, as well as a toggle at the bottom,(which the turnbuckle will take care of). Without a toggle on the top, this also stresses the forestay, especially when rigging and de-rigging. Most CDI owners skip this part because normally it will require you to have a new forestay fabricated, and so most will skip this part because they don't understand why they have to discard a perfectly good forestay.

Don

Tom J · Jan 14, 2014

Chasemixon said:
Ok maybe, but this cable goes down the center of the jib? Is that the forestay?

If your forestay is removed, and the mast is still up, it would be a good idea to attach the jib halyard to the bow somewhere and put tension on it. This will help keep the mast in place.

Tom J · Jan 15, 2014

It's probably best to take the old forestay to a rigger and have a new forestay made. Every boat is different, and replacement stays and shrouds are not usually stocked.

Crazy Dave Condon · Jan 18, 2014

Seco south in the Tampa area made the orginal rigging for the boat. Just send the old cable to whomever both pieces of course.

Crazy Dave Condon · Jan 21, 2014

Chassemixon;

No need for thanks but if you ever want to talk about boats and want me to call, send me your location with phone number and I will call. Your information is then discarded and no one to include my wife gets it either. I use to be a dealer and know what it is like as I use to be in that position at one time. I have been off the grid for over a week now due to logging as I am getting ready to build in the VA mountains and the views are awesome with appx. 330 degree views of the mts. I am also involved with guardian ad litum for elder care abuse and that my friend is horrendous in some cases.

crazy dave condon

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