Roller Furler upper swivel sticking.

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Clydo

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May 28, 2013
363
Catalina C310 SF Bay/Delta
Anyone have this problem? Pulled really hard on sheets and genny would not unfurl.
Rigger up mast and said looked like "inner" bearing not rotating. Emailed Schaefer on this
model 2100 on my 2003 C310 and they thought "inner denrail?" worn and needed
replacement. Not halyard wrap and bottom drum rotates with no problem. Appreciate
any thoughts including how to replace part.

Clyde Thorington
San Jose, CA
 
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Benny17441

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May 24, 2004
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CC 30 South Florida
Both the rigger and the manufacturer seem to agree that the upper swivel likely needs replacing. Not familiar with the Schaeffer System but the usual method of replacing would be for the rigger to bring down the forestay and furler assembly and proceed to disassemble it including the extrusions so that the whole unit could be re-assembled together with the replacement upper swivel following the manufacturer's original installation instructions. Would be a good opportunity to inspect the forestay.
 
JK_Boston_Catalina310

JK_Boston_Catalina310

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Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
You can get the manual on our blog. https://svsmitty.files.wordpress.com

Look on the page "the boat". You can do the replacement with the mast up. You need to use the two jib halyards to support the mast while you do it. The manual has good instructions on how to disassemble the lower unit to get the top swivel off.

While you are at it, look at the lower unit. If you don't have the flush hole you should upgrade the lower unit while you are at it.

Good luck
 
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Barnacle Bill

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Jun 9, 2008
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Just make sure you aren't having halyard wrap. That is one of the biggest problems with upper swivel failure. The fix is a halyard retainer. Harken sells them separately. Two come included with every Furlex system. Schaefer has them as an option. It is installed on the mast so that the halyard exits from the masthead and feeds through the restrainer (or retainer) so that it creates the optimum angle for the halyard to feed to the upper swivel. This eliminates halyard wrap which is when the halyard wraps around the forestay and hence binding it all up. My guess is that is really what is happening and so take some binoculars and take a close look before buying a new upper swivel.
 
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Clydo

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May 28, 2013
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Catalina C310 SF Bay/Delta
Barnacle Bill said:
Just make sure you aren't having halyard wrap. That is one of the biggest problems with upper swivel failure. The fix is a halyard retainer. Harken sells them separately. Two come included with every Furlex system. Schaefer has them as an option. It is installed on the mast so that the halyard exits from the masthead and feeds through the restrainer (or retainer) so that it creates the optimum angle for the halyard to feed to the upper swivel. This eliminates halyard wrap which is when the halyard wraps around the forestay and hence binding it all up. My guess is that is really what is happening and so take some binoculars and take a close look before buying a new upper swivel.
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Clydo

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May 28, 2013
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Catalina C310 SF Bay/Delta
Thanks a bunch for photos Paul. Looks like mine so don't think halyard wrap.


Clyde Thorington
C310 # 245
ILEAN TOO
San Jose, CA
 
SimiSAilor

SimiSAilor

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Feb 20, 2013
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Catalina 310 Channel Islands Harbor
Clyde,
Had to remove my forestay this week and had the upper fuller assembly in hand. The inner bearing is just a teflon sleeve. Not much you can do with it. I would drop the sail and hit it hard with fresh water. I use mclube or dry film lube on the outer roller bearings. Just clean the inner as best you can. The only way to remove the upper swivel is to disassemble the forestay. Hope this helps some.
Jeff


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JK_Boston_Catalina310

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Nov 18, 2010
2,441
Catalina 310 Hingham, MA
SimiSAilor said:
Clyde,
Had to remove my forestay this week and had the upper fuller assembly in hand. The inner bearing is just a teflon sleeve. Not much you can do with it. I would drop the sail and hit it hard with fresh water. I use mclube or dry film lube on the outer roller bearings. Just clean the inner as best you can. The only way to remove the upper swivel is to disassemble the forestay. Hope this helps some.
Jeff


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Interesting. Mine has ball bearings.
 
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Clydo

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May 28, 2013
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Catalina C310 SF Bay/Delta
SimiSAilor said:
Clyde,
Had to remove my forestay this week and had the upper fuller assembly in hand. The inner bearing is just a teflon sleeve. Not much you can do with it. I would drop the sail and hit it hard with fresh water. I use mclube or dry film lube on the outer roller bearings. Just clean the inner as best you can. The only way to remove the upper swivel is to disassemble the forestay. Hope this helps some.
Jeff


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These pictures a great. Real big help. Thank you, Paul J, and others for your help.
List is very helpful. Great group.

Clyde Thorington
C310 # 245
ILEAN TOO
San Jose,CA
 
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