Rogue wave/wind??

May 28, 2015
280
Catalina 385 Atlantic Highlands, NJ
Ward:
Did you say winds from Southwest off Barnegat Beach? You may want to check topography 1-5 nautical miles inland on the southwest rhumb line. I noted several "wind tunnels" especially at the mouth of the Toms River. They seemed to be formed by structures and other topographical features onshore.
 

rfrye1

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Jun 15, 2004
589
Hunter H376 San Diego
Submarine Wake. Last year I was sailing out in San Diego 4-5 Miles West of Pt Loma trying to catch a Yellowtail, when a Big Sub heading out to sea came from behind about 500 yds behind me. I was quartering away in 10kts on wind, pretty flat sea. This guy was hauling, I'm guessing 20-25kts! When his wake/bow wave hit me I couldn't believe the energy it packed! His wake tossed my H376 around like a small cork. It was impressive to say the least...
Bob
 
Nov 26, 2012
2,315
Catalina 250 Bodega Bay CA
Good point rfrye1! Went to sea out of there many years ago and you are spot on for San Diego with such heavy large vessel trafffic as all those surface ships kick up quite a wake. May explain the East coasts sneaker wave reports mentioned above. Chief
 

Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
3,814
Catalina 30 Mk II Cedar Creek, Bayville NJ
Monterey385,
Yep, instead of the great sea breezes we usually get we have been getting flukey westerly winds. Inland structures probably had a lot to do with it.
 
May 20, 2016
3,015
Catalina 36 MK1 94 Everett, WA
I've been hit only once with what I would call a truly bad rogue wave. I was commercial fishing ~100miles off the Washington coast and we were running in at night, more or less had 2' sea on stern. Now mind you its probably 3 in the morning so there was no visibility - all of a sudden a wave broke over the stern quarter - and no joke I had ~3' of blue water over the stern, water poured in for what seemed like an eternity but probably only 15 seconds and the boat tipped to about 45 degrees, tossed the skipper out of his top bunk onto the floor, then went back to what I had previously for sea conditions - one wave, no traffic (monitor the radar) .
The sea is a harsh mistress.

Les
 
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Jan 4, 2010
1,037
Farr 30 San Francisco
How many hours at sea do you have? So I can calculate my odds as (1/yourhours at sea)*my hours at sea. +- a lot!
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
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Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
Where I used to live in San Sebastian, Spain - that region experiences a meteorological phenomena they call "Galerna". I happens only in the summer when the temperature over the water and land reach a specific temperature differential. It occurs on still, warm summer days. The geography of the region causes an inversion where suddenly, in a matter of seconds, winds go from 0 to gale force winds. It usually only lasts for 10 or 15 minutes, but occasionally it can last longer.

The worst one I ever saw there lasted close to 45 minutes. We had just put in a new anchorage behind the island and my friend Xavier and I had just taken my sail boat out and anchored it. He had a flat in the port overlooking the bay and we had just walked out onto his balcony to look at the boat when the Galerna hit. The wind whipping around the island actually flipped my boat over onto it's side with the mast hitting the water. It was amazing to watch. I've attached a photo of the city, you can see the sailboats behind the island Santa Clara. That's where my boat was at the time.

I was out in the ocean a couple times when Galerna's hit, the difficulty is it is so fast, and they occur on really calm days so one is usually got max light air sails up and then suddenly you find yourself in near hurricane force winds. Boats sink, people get hurt or die in these events. You learn fast when they may occur...

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Nov 26, 2012
2,315
Catalina 250 Bodega Bay CA
Its not how long you have been at sea: its what kind of seas you got hit with. I have rode out either 4 or 5 typhoons in the pacific in 1958 with 50' seas. Thats rough on a Fletcher class destroyer or any ship! Chief
 
Nov 26, 2012
2,315
Catalina 250 Bodega Bay CA
We lost a couple LST's just outside Yokosuka Japan in one of the Typhoons I mentioned. Broke them in half! Chief
 
Oct 2, 2008
3,811
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Since there is a lot of commercial traffic along the NJ coast, could it be possible that these waves may have been produced by a ship that had passed by hours before. The wave or rebound could then focus through a narrow inlet producing what you have described. I read the book "The Wave" last winter which was mostly surfing monster waves, but it did talk about what produces these huge waves.

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JRT

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Feb 14, 2017
2,059
Catalina 310 211 Lake Guntersville, AL
Good thread, luckly my wave experience is limited to lake traffic. I give a lot of room around tugs and barges too.