Rigging a spinnaker on a 222

[SailingSully]

I have a beautiful spinnaker that I would like to use. There is a spinnaker pole with a clip on one end and a L hook on the other end. There is a halyard that will hoist it outside the forstay.
Please advise.

 

[olsalt]

I too would like to fly a spinnaker on a 222, but no one beside both of us seems the least bit interested.

Over the winter layup I intend to add some reinforcement to the standing rigging, and make some mods to the mast (includign extend the jib halyard above the forestay) and probably add some tracks at the aft sidedecks.

Personally I think this boat can race and perform pretty well with no more attention than the typical club racer.

 

[Joe11688]

I have a beautiful spinnaker that I would like to use. There is a spinnaker pole with a clip on one end and a L hook on the other end. There is a halyard that will hoist it outside the forstay.
Please advise.

I think that if I were ever to get a spinnaker it would have to be a cruising spinnaker. I know very little about them, myself. Others have raised the spinnaker question in the past and Ed K. has come up with some answers on it. So if you look through the Archives on this site, you may find something on it. I think that Ed is out of town this week, but if you wait a while I'm sure he will answer your questions on it.

 

[RichBone]

Flying a spinnaker is a lot of fun. Especially on a beam reach.
Rigging the boat for a symmetical spinnaker takes a bit of hardware.
First a pole with a bridle on top and one on the bottom, a padeye on the mast, a line to raise the pole and one to hold down the pole.
A asymmetrical can be flown without a pole. The height of the tack is adjusted by a pendant through a block on the bow.
Both require a set of blocks all the way aft near the rail at the stern.
There's a learning curve on each one, of course, a little more so on the symmetrical.

I'm fairly experienced on the symmetric but I decided to go with the asym when I rebuilt my 25 (thinking that it would be simpler and easier to fly and it probably is) and I've only flew it a few times. It's going to take a while for learn this one.
So far I still like the symmetrical. I think because I know it better.
Either way they're worth considering. Once you learn how to fly them, they're a gas. But you need a extra hand or two. They can be a handful launching and retrieving.

Rich

 

[RichBone]

Isn't the 222 a fractional rig? If so then the spinnaker would be smaller than on a masthead rig and easier to handle.

Rich

 

[Joe11688]

Isn't the 222 a fractional rig? If so then the spinnaker would be smaller than on a masthead rig and easier to handle.

Rich

Yes Rich, it is a fractional rig. I know absolutely nothing about spinnakers myself. I think I could fly one on my boat by myself with the aid of my autopilot steering my boat out in the bay on a good day. Those spinnaker poles are too pricey for my style. I'd love to have a Whisker Pole if I could find one cheap. Maybe I could make one!

Ahoy!
Joe

 

[RichBone]

Yes Rich, it is a fractional rig. I know absolutely nothing about spinnakers myself. I think I could fly one on my boat by myself with the aid of my autopilot steering my boat out in the bay on a good day. Those spinnaker poles are too pricey for my style. I'd love to have a Whisker Pole if I could find one cheap. Maybe I could make one!

Ahoy!
Joe

It doesn't have to be fancy Joe. Heck, head out to the woods
and cut one. It only needs to be close to the J measurement, Or longer. The ends are the expensive parts.
Or this-
http://us-dc1-order.store.yahoo.net...JLroH7PJ34w6ZGdWH0eg8eaYUoYPM4gXvDiCh2T7MMA--

Rich

 

[RichBone]

Joe, You could put a small rope loop on the inboard end of the pole with a snap shackle on it and snap it on a pad eye.

Rich

 

[Joe11688]

Joe, You could put a small rope loop on the inboard end of the pole with a snap shackle on it and snap it on a pad eye.

Rich

I often thought of using a 12' telescopic boat pole similar to the one I have on my boat, and making some snap on extrusions for it. It could double as a boat pole and a Whisker pole. I've taken my boat pole and used it for a Whisker pole by tying it to my mast.
Years ago when my old ODO forum pal the late Chuck (Old Bum) Rothert was fixing up his O'Day 222, he went to a cabinet shop in Toledo Oh. run by an old German guy and had him turn out a spinnaker pole made from Sassafras wood on his lathe. Chuck had bought the bronze extrusions in a flea market for cheap money and all he needed was the pole and some thin line. I still have the pictures of it that Chuck sent me. Chuck did a beautiful job of putting that pole together and finishing it off with Polyurethane. It came out looking like a beautiful piece of furniture. I told him, "Hey Chuck, you better put a lanyard on that pole and tie it to your boat so you never lose it over the side!" We lost Chuck a couple of years ago of Cancer. He was one great guy and I miss him like crazy.
Joe

 

[SailingSully]

wow all this and I still don't know...my spinny has a corner that says tack. does that tell u sym or asym??
also the pole is it a wisker or a spin pole how can I tell??

 

[RichBone]

It's probably an aspin. Take and lay it out on the ground and see if both sides are the same length or if one is longer than the other.
symmetric or asymmetric.

Both spin pole ends would be the same "c" shape. A whisker pole usually has only one.

Did you get the spin with the boat?

Rich

 

[Joe11688]

I have a beautiful spinnaker that I would like to use. There is a spinnaker pole with a clip on one end and a L hook on the other end. There is a halyard that will hoist it outside the forstay.
Please advise.

Check this site out Shannon. Compliments of MacGregor.
http://www.macgregor26x.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15495&start=15

Joe