Rig a 17' Daysailer mast while on the water?

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Dec 27, 2010
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Oday Daysailer III Corpus Christi (Padre Island)
I'm new to sailing (only a few lessons on Lake Union in Seattle). I'm looking to buy a small daysailer. We have a townhouse on a canal on Padre Island in Corpus Christi. My problem is that the boat storage is under our deck, so the mast would have to be installed and removed every time we use it. Realize that this isn't a huge problem as we're looking for a "trailerable" boat anyway, but the difference is that we'll have to rig the boat while it is in the water, not on a trailer.

We've been looking at a 1985 17' O'Day Daysailer and a 1996 Precision 15.

Does anyone have experience setting up the mast and boom while the boat is floating? Any advice? or other boats that would be easier to handle?

Thanks,
Duane
 
Dec 11, 2009
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Oday 26 Central FL
If you are alone you'll need some kind of a mast crutch. I owned an 18 and 23's with stern rails and raised the mast on the water with an "A" frame. The daysailer doesn't need an "A" frame but there is no stern rail to rest the mast. You can't lay the mast down because the mast step being on the cabin top is higher than the transom so you can't pin the mast unless someone else is holding up the mast at the transom or you build a mast crutch to support it while on the water.

Have a lot of extra pins to connect the forestay, I've dropped them on land, at sea it's a bit more of a problem;-).

John
 
Jun 2, 2004
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Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
Since the 1985 DS II has a hinged maststep, it should not be hard to step/unstep the mast while the boat is in the water. I made my own mast crutch to use while trailering my DS II, I can look up the measurements and post them. It ain't fancy, but it works!
My 1979 DS II still has the original "keel-stepped" mast (actually, cuddy floor stepped) and I have always (well, 95% of the times) stepped/unstepped the mast with the boat in the water, it is easier for me to do it that way. One tip, if possible, can you leave the mast attached to the boat while under the deck? In other words, most people who trailer their boats often just unhook the forestay and lower the mast, leaving everything else rigged (just the 2 shrouds on a DS II). The mast could be unpinned from the hinge and slip forward if needed as long as it is secured. This would also allow the mast to be layed lower than if kept pinned to the hinge. That way you just slide the boat into the water, raise the mast, attach forestay and hoist sails (well, you will have to bend on hte jib if you are using that day.) the mainsail could be kept on the boom if you have a cover for the sail. Then just slide the gooseneck into the mast slot and you're set. If I remove my boom during the season (boat is on a mooring) I'll just unshackle the downhaul (I added that shackle for that purpose) from the boom and remove the upper mainsheet block from the boom, saves time when I re-rig the boom.

I've attached several pics, the drawing is my crutch as is the one inside our garage. The red boat with the grey crutch is someone elses home-made setup. The red boat with the low crutch shows what I believe to be an O'DAY original optional part, this was part of the "trailing Package" and was made from 2 pieces of wood using a set of standard rudder pintles to attach to the rudder gudgeons on the transom. It appears that the other owner also used standard pintles, I used bend lag screws (heads cut off) to save $$. Finally, the pic of a yellow boat on the trailer shows SUNBIRD ready to head for the ramp, as you can see, my crutch does hold the mast up a bit high, this wil lbe fine for supporting the mast as you step/unstep, but might be a bit high to fit under the house deck? My mast lays paralell to the top of the cuddy and my crutch could easily be used if I had a hinged mast.
 

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Dec 27, 2010
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Oday Daysailer III Corpus Christi (Padre Island)
Thanks for both of your replies. Well I bought the 1985 DSII. The guy I bought it from showed me how to get everything rigged. First thingI noticed was the pin keepers on fore and side stays.....almost like a key ring. Now I see what John was talking about with the dropped pins. Does anybody know of a "quick release" style pin?

The boat came with an A-frame style mast crutch, but I'll definitely build one like you show. I think I'll be able to store the boat partially rigged like you mention. Thanks again.
Duane
 
Jan 24, 2005
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Oday 222 Dighton, Ma.
Thanks for both of your replies. Well I bought the 1985 DSII. The guy I bought it from showed me how to get everything rigged. First thingI noticed was the pin keepers on fore and side stays.....almost like a key ring. Now I see what John was talking about with the dropped pins. Does anybody know of a "quick release" style pin?

The boat came with an A-frame style mast crutch, but I'll definitely build one like you show. I think I'll be able to store the boat partially rigged like you mention. Thanks again.
Duane
Duane,
They do sell a Press Button Quick Release Pin that you can use on your fore stay. I have one on my fore stay and I've been using the same one for years. Don't use a Fast Pin! You could use use regular stainless steel cotter pins for your other stays if you have a hinged Tabernacle. Just leave them connected to your chain plates and Bungee the stays to the mast when the boat is being trailered or the mast is in it's mast crutch. Put a small roller in the crutch so you can roll the mast aft or forward. Here's my set up.
 

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Jan 22, 2008
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Macgregor 23 florida FL
you need to get a copy of west marine catalog, all your answers are there waiting to be discovered. there are helpful instruction articles and lots of pix to help you learn lots if stuff. i tell all those new to sailing to get one.
 
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