Riding out Ike In Galveston

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Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
I was talking to a fellow sailor yesterday and he recommends I make a post to share my experience riding out Ike on anchor in Galveston (Offets Bayou) so here it goes:

I decided to leave my floating dock marina in Kemah and sail south, yes, south to Galveston. Many reasons for my decision but the main one was that we were supposed to get 20+ feet of storm surge and my marina can only handle 12'. I picked Offets because the max fetch was half a mile.
I decided to try the anchoring from the stern which the designer of the Jordan Series Drogue website claims is the way to ride out a hurricane as the boat will not swing so shafe is not an issue. A friend told me it wasn't a good idea as he saw a Benny sink in doing so because the stern was pulled down and the open transom sunk the boat. I though he was just talking trash but just in case he was right, I rigged a safety release so it would swing around to the bow if needed.

Mr Jordan was right, the boat doesn't swing when anchored from the stern when using a bridal. My friend was right in that when at anchor like that, the stern is pulled down a little. In my case (Hunter 376 in 110 knots) it wasn't enough to pull it down that much, BUT it was not a good idea. The boat took way too much pounding from the waves which were a lot bigger then I thought they would be with just a third of a mile fetch (8'). Water came in through the lazarette and the companionway doors. Everything got wet down below.

I had pump problems but was very very glad I had that rule 3700 in the bildge....yes I took on a lot of water when stern to the wind but only a little as the drain of the anchor locker started to leak when bow to the wind.
I tried to turn the boat around but the lines jammed because I didn't release the bridal right. Once the eye came over, the wind dropped to 10 knots and no waves, so I turned the boat around and ran two bridals off the bow. This is the important part: half of the bridal shafe through so I was on only half of the first bridal. I didn't think shaft was going to be a problem but I forgot about the swing and the bridal rubbing on the hull (at the edge of the bow on the hull) as it swung. They say that's the reason boats don't make it on anchor or mooring because people forget about the shafe from the bow, they normally put the shaft on the toerail.

The boat did ride much more wildly when anchored from the bow but it was a much smoother ride...no pounding. HOWEVER, I now know why those people who use sea anchors loose their rudder sometimes. As you swing, it puts a ton of pressure on the rudder and keel. You can feel the pressure and maybe a little vibration. I guess with that additional backwards drift while on the sea anchor, it's just too much pressure but most comes from the swing.

I do believe I know exactly the prefect way to deal with the shaft problem as another boat near me had this setup. He had about 3' of dock lines spliced with a proper anchor splice and sleeve inside it....one for each cleat. He cleated off the loose end and then shackled the other end to about 10' of aircraft cable which went over the anchor rollers. The other end of the cables was shackled to the rode which of course had proper spliced anchor eyes and metal sleeves. I didn't see what anchors he used but he ran them straight out like I did. He didn't budge. I did a little.

I used a Bullwagga with 200' of 5/8th rode and 50' feet of chain as the primary. The secondary anchor was 300' of 3/4 rode and 20' of chain on a fortress. Both anchors were for a 50' boat so you could say I was under two storm anchors. I think it was a good combination as the bullwagga always resets with wind direction changes. The Fortress wouldn't reset but just twist in it's spot but only because the bullwagga took a lot of strain off it so it was jerked out. The bullwagga, as always, digs in deeper as the pull on it, but for it to dig in, it "drags" so I made sure to leave lots of room. I think I dragged the first half of the storm when I was stern to the wind, about 25-50 yards. Didn't drag at all the second half with it bow to the wind.

Now the addition to his setup I would make is a very big snubber connected to the cable on the rode end and the other end connected to the hook on the bow midway up the hull from the waterline. That should take a lot of pressure off the anchor rollers and hopefully take all the load. If not, you are still protected from the shafe.

One thing I learned in this storm is that the more back systems you have, the better. Take my bridal off the bow. If I rode out the whole storm with my two bridals off the bow, I bet I would have shafed both and endded up on the rocks. The fact that I did half the storm stern to, it compensated for my lack of shafe protection in an odd place. The heavy storm winds last about 6-8 hours so anything you can do to buy time, the better.
A few more advice...clean the inside of your boat, especially the bildge. Do let dirt and other little junk get washed down into the bildge where it clogs the pumps. Also, nothing is better then a full shield motorcycle helmet in a storm. Without it, I wouldn't have been able to do anything outside. With it on, it wasn't a big deal being on deck. It muffles the sound. It keeps the saltwater out of your eyes as it's blowing sideways off the top of the waves. It blocks the wind so breathing is normal. It also protects the head just in case you get thrown. As for wet weather gear, all it does is protect the skin from the pelts. You will get soaked so have a swimsuit on under it because it dries better and you can get dry quicker when you go down below. Last advice, have lots of seasickness medicine. Sturdegen worked for me. Got that when I did the race to Mexico earlier this year. These suggestions aren't just for anchoring out during a hurricane, but for anytime you are on a boat in very rough weather.

Sorry so long but I didn't want to leave any details out so you all don't make the same mistakes I did.

BTW: Yes, I know I'm nuts to ride out a hurricane on my boat so no need to say that :)
 
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Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,186
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Wow!

Franklin, nice to see you back! Are you back home now? How was the trip?:eek:
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
Re: Wow!

Yes, I'm back in Kemah now. Kemah may have taken it harder as it had 25 miles of fetch and no seawall to break the waves. Just about everything here along the shore on the first floor is gutted. The resturants look like they were built on stilts but they weren't. I still don't have power or water so I'm living like I'm on anchor. They are talking two weeks but I think it's going to be longer then that.

I haven't been on this site much because I know there are a lot who don't want me on here. I tend to have different views then others and I guess I do a poor job of expressing it.

Well...back to football....I love the man who invented the generator :)
 
Feb 7, 2005
132
Hunter 23 Mentor, Ohio
Re: Wow!

Thanks Franklin for taking the time to post an experience most of us will never have. By the way, I'm here BECAUSE of the differing points of view, and I don't much care how elegantly they are written. Pretty sure I'm not the only one. Good to hear from you.
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
So good to see you back on

Franklin, very good report, and glad you made it OK. Had never thought about a full face helmet, but a very good idea. As for those who don't like your ideas or opinions, the hell with them. Welcome back.
 
May 31, 2004
197
Catalina 36 MK II Havre de Grace, MD
Takes a lot of courage

to ride out. As other have said, glad you made it and appreciate your narrative/advice.
 

RECESS

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Dec 20, 2003
1,505
Pearson 323 . St. Mary's Georgia
Great information!!

Thanks for sharing. That was a lot of good information. Did you by chance take any pictures through the windows? There is no way my wife would have gone for that. :snooty:
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,709
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Great post..!

Nice job on saving your boat! An old trick you can try for your next one is to trail a small drogue on a centered bridle off the stern while anchored bow to. Under medium winds 30-50 it won't do much but when you get up to 60+ the wind and wave actions fill the drogue and will keep the bow pointed into the wind even though you are stationary. It seems to work better with lots of rode length and often you don't have the room but a friend in Florida has used that method in a few hurricanes and the drogue stayed full and did not collapse..:confused: Worth a try, though it sounds like you've got the technique nailed..
 
May 11, 2005
3,431
Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
A question for you

Franklin, I think you made a good choice in Offats Bayou, not only for the fetch issue, but if I remember correctly, the holding there is pretty good. And you are not nuts, but you do have plenty of guts. How big of a Bulwagga were you using, and how deep was the water where you were anchored. Seems to me that there is some pretty deep water in there, along with some areas which are fairly shallow.
 

Ctskip

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Sep 21, 2005
732
other 12 wet water
Nuts? I don't think so

Folks here, all have differing opinions. We all know about opinions. Thanks for the tips and suggestions. I like the full face helmet one. Glad to hear that you are safe. I've ridden out a few storms as a kid, just like you describe. Mine have always been bow into the wind, with the motor running. Exillerating to say the least and leaving memories that will stay with you forever.
Do you always do what some want you to do? I know I do just the opposite. Welcome aboard. Let's keep em on their toes.

Keep it up,
Ctskip
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
depth, bottom and anchors

...How big of a Bulwagga were you using, and how deep was the water where you were anchored...
I used a 44lb Bulwagga and a 22lb Fortress fx-37. Both are rated for boats 40-50'. Mine is 37'. Like I said before, it seemed like a great combination. Bulwaggas always reset on their own but will give up ground in doing so and that's the reason it was on the shorter rode. The Fortress is known for it's excellent holding power but if it gets pulled out during a quick changing wind direction, it may have a hard time resetting as it sets best with short scope.

The water is listed at 20' but was 22' when I got there 24 hours before hurricane force winds arrived. At one point I saw the depth gauge read 37.5' but that might have been when a 8' wave was under me. Reported surge was 12' so that makes since. I had 250' on the bulwagga and 320' on the Fortress. That enabled the anchors to be spread out and on different angles when the wind shifts (so they don't end up in the same ditch). It also gave me enough scope for the 20' surge that was predicted.

Bottom is hard mud so yes, it holds very well once it's set correctly. Bottom does have a ton of obstackles to foul the anchor like rags, beer cans and all kinds of stuff to get caught in the flakes.

I can't stress enough that if you are running the rode off the cleats and toerail and not the tip of the bow, you will have the rode pressed against the bow edge when swinging and as the waves come, the bows edge will act like a saw and cut right through the rode. Maybe shafe gear will prevent it, but after going though that storm, I prefer to run the rode off the tip of the bow (anchor rollers if you have them) and the part that goes over the bow being aircraft cable but chain should work. If you are worried that the anchor rollers can take it, take them off and epoxy on 2x4s. It's much better to worry about getting off epoxyed 2x4s after a hurricane then it is worrying about how to get the boat off the rocks or out of the parking lot or somebody's livingroom (we had a 50+ motoryatch go all the way into somebody's livingroom).
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
trip

...How was the trip?:eek:
The trip across the gulf to Mexico (VeraCruz) was interesting to say the least. It was the Regatta De Amigos where the one boat lost it's keel and half the other boats turned around and went home. Some boats turned around because of crew being sea sick. Some boats turned around due to engine trouble. Some boats turned around due to injury to crew. Some boats turned around due to fresh water pump failure. We had all that but my fabulous crew and I overcame it and kept going. The first 4 hours we were in race mode. The next 3 days we were in survival mode. The next 2 days we were just wanting to get there but it was excellent sailing those days. The last day it was a crawl and we ended up motoring the last 35 miles as we didn't want to spend another night in thunderstorms. Got second in Motor/sail but I should have gotten first in Spin class if it wasn't for a course set mistake in the first day.

The "trip" riding out the hurricane, well, it was intense at times, espeically when I had to deal with pump issues and taking on water. No pictures though...sorry. Was too busy and you couldn't see anything anyway. The hurricane force winds started when the sun went down and continued until shortly before the sun came up. The air was also full of saltwater which cut visablity down more.
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Franklin!

Riding out a hurricane :eek:, glad every thing worked out ok but I knew that cause our friend Tony has been keeping us informed how you did and I'm glad to see you back on the screen your input on these forums were and still are an asset.
 

knutfg

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Sep 29, 2008
5
Brent Swain 36 origami steel Ft Lauderdale
Franklin, thanks a lot for your posting about riding out Ike. I have a 36' steel sailboat docked off the ICW South of Ft Lauderdale and when Ike was approaching and at one time pointed straight at my location with a Cat 4 prognosis, I quickly came to the conclusion that staying in the marina was NOT an option.

There are some very nice bays along the ICW with 10-20' depth, small but still enough room and good holding bottom and I decided to drop 2 anchors and ride it out. Of course I was told I was crazy, but your experience proves that it can be succesfully done. When seeing all the pictures of boats being trashed and thrown on land, most of them originally moored in marinas, I am in no doubt. Can you imagine what happens in a tight finger-marina (short mooring lines) when the water rises by 10 feet and you cannot be there to adjust?

Anchoring out chafe is of course a problem, but a combination of protection and letting out a couple of feet every hour or so should take care of it.

I have not done what you did yet (Ike changed course!), but I am sure I will anchor from the bow. To prevent swinging, I had in mind that two anchors set at say 60 degrees angle would prevent this problem? It sounds like you still had a lot of swing with two anchors, but how did you put them out in relation to each other and the boat?

The helmet-idea is genious! I am using glasses, so I may want to try that solution even in less demanding conditions that 100 mph winds.

Thanks again for sharing :)

Knut
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
WoW WoW WoW

Guts, Courage, and Nerves Made of Steel. I have never had my backside puckered up as tight as it was in a thunderstorm I got caught up in out in the Bay and all I think I saw was 55 to 60 knots of wind. I just can't imagine going through all that with 110 knots, but I also can't imagine feeling content enough to just do nothing and wait to see what would happen to the boat.

I'm glad you made it, and thank you for sharing your experience with us. We all learned something from your setup and will be sure and know what has the best potential to work for us. I'll have to remember that about the helmet; as much as I'd hate to get my Bell soaked, that's some cheap protection.

Thanks again for sharing and glad things worked out for the best for you.
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
Franklin - I'm totally impressed. You got guts, fella!

That was some doing. You figured out how you could do it, looking at all the details, and did it.

And now you got a hell of a great story to tell.

Helmet: Several years ago "Latitude 38", a Bay Area sailing magazine, had a really good picture of a helmet for sailors. It had a visor just for the spray pellets you talked about. One thing that caught my attention was the model that was wearing it, in true Latitude 38 fashion, she was wearing ONLY the helmet.

Scope: That's something that could really catch someone if they hadn't figured everything out. Base sealevel + surge + wave height + height of the bow. That really adds up! Good computing.

Debris: What about storm debris? Wouldn't there be debris from the first direction from the island you were behind and then from the second direction as the storm passed? Looking at the news footage there must have been tons of debris, some floating and maybe even flying??? The water must have been a real mess.

Water pump: Where did you get the power to run the water pump? Did you run the engine too? If the bilge water was reasonably clean one can rig up a bilge pump using the engine raw water pump and a Y-valve with a strainer to assist the electric pump.

Anchor locker leak: On my boat the chain locker was not watertight from the factory. The upper part of the chain locker pan is not sealed to the underside of the deck and I would get water into the cabin when the going got rough or when I pressure washed the chain locker. Once I discovered where the water was coming from I fiberglassed the joint all around except for where the steaming light wires were and there I caulked. If you stick your head inside and look up to the underside of the deck you'll see what I mean. :eek:

Anyway, that was a really good write-up about your experience riding out the hurricane. You should talk to Gary Wyngarten about doing a story for one of the sailing magazines.

Way to go!
 
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Allan

Big Balls

Franklin, what an experience. I live in Beaumont, and we lost our vacation home on Bolivar Peninsula. I left my boat (Hunter 430) at Waterford. The reason there is because I was previously at Port Arthur, and after Rita I knew it would not stand another storm. I think 95% of boats in Port arthur ended up across the road next to the ICW. I know I pay a premium at this marina, but the floating docks and 14' pilings look better than elsewhere (Also, my wife fell in love with the Kemah area). They tell me we were within 2 feet of coming off the pilings.

We lost coverage on the storm on Friday, but my nephew sent me the storm track which basically went up the Houston ship channel which put Kemah/Clear Lake in the Northwest quadrant. A little further West, and we wouild have had the 20' surge they were predicting. If that would have happened we would have experienced 90% destruction no matter where you were docked.
 
Jun 13, 2005
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Hunter 30_74-83 Fowl River, AL
After seeing some of the photos from the Galveston/Houston/Kemah area, I'm amazed that any boats survived. That took real guts to ride out the storm like that.
I appreciate the tips and techniques that you shared, although I hope I never have to use any of them. I especially liked the motorcycle helmet idea.
I live on Mobile Bay, Alabama, so I have seen my share of hurricanes, but luckily, we have a convenient "hurricane hole" near the house. We pull our DreamBoat into a small canal and tie off to large oaks on either side of the canal. This situation handled 12' to 15' foot surge during Ivan and Katrina.
Thanks again for sharing your story.
 
Jun 2, 2004
13
Catalina 270 Longview
Franklin, WOW what a brave thing to do. Glad you are OK
I am curious about the medicine you used for sea sickness. "sturdegen? What is it and where can I get some??
 
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