Rich's restoration

[emergpa1]

Rich. Where r u at on your repair. I just looled at your album. Things r looking good. Have u begun to try to fill in and finish the holes u driled? I ended up host sanding those whole area smooth and painting then because after filling them in it was just a crappy looking mess. Pardon the typos I often post fromy cell phone)
Keith

 

[RichBone]

Well thank you for asking, Keith. As you know I've got Pronto! shrink wrapped for the winter which I hope will be mild so I can get enough done to have her ready by Memorial Day. I just built a ladder with two steps for the companionway. The boat originally had just one step which I felt was too long. I think they did it that way so the settee slide-out would have clearance. I eliminated the slide-out.

Then there's the head. The platform was rotted from the chainplate leak. So that area needs rebuilding. I mentioned before that the sink and vanity across from it was also rotted but I tore that all out and I'm just leaving it open for now. Maybe I'll use it for storage or shelves.

I had mixed success filling the holes on the deck. I worked out a way to fill them and match the nonskid. I took a double layer of blue masking tape and punched a quarter inch hole it and put the tape over the quarter inch hole on the deck. Then I would mix and color gelcoat to match the nonskid. Fill the hole level with the tape (two layers works OK, three maybe too high- haven't completely worked that out). Remove the tape.

Then I used "aqua-mend" epoxy putty and made some stamps with the nonskid pattern and put them over the gelcoat.

Sorry, I don't have any pics of the results yet. The level of success depends a lot on the color match. Sometimes the gelcoat plug would
stick to the stamp and come out. If I'm not satisfied then I just drill it out with a 1/4" drill bit and do it over. Anyhow it's cosmetic since I injected Git-Rot in all the holes last spring. I doubt if I'll do anymore on that 'til springtime. I can even do it when she's in the water.

Mainly I want to have her ready to sail first.

I have to install a compass.

I'm working on the deck layout for the cockpit led lines. I installed two Lewmar #6 winches on the cabintop and am figuring out the location for the turning blocks. I replaced the old Barlow single speed primary winches with Lewmar two speeds. I'm converting the external halyards to internal and I have to install exit plates on the mast for them. I've got to add reef lines on the boom. First, second and flattening.

I have to rewire the mast. I'm adding an anchor light, a vhf antenna, and a windex light. The cabin needs to be rewired. I'm changing the location of the circuit panel. I'm replacing the nav lights. No LEDs yet.

All the teak trim needs to be reinstalled.

The galley should be bleached and finished- after she's sailing.

I'm going to clean the cushions (what is it with all these ugly damn plaid cushions) for now. They should get me through next summer. Then I want to replace the ugly damn plaid cushions with new covers. The foam still looks OK.

Instrumentation will have to wait also. I haven't figured out where to put the knotmeter and depthsounder. A season on the water will give me a better idea on placement.

The name needs to go on before launch, but that'll be easy.

If you can think of anything else, let me know.

Rich

 

[Shoaldrafter]

Putty sticking ...

Well thank you for asking, Keith. As you know I've got Pronto! shrink wrapped for the winter which I hope will be mild so I can get enough done to have her ready by Memorial Day. I just built a ladder with two steps for the companionway. The boat originally had just one step which I felt was too long. I think they did it that way so the settee slide-out would have clearance. I eliminated the slide-out.

Then there's the head. The platform was rotted from the chainplate leak. So that area needs rebuilding. I mentioned before that the sink and vanity across from it was also rotted but I tore that all out and I'm just leaving it open for now. Maybe I'll use it for storage or shelves.

I had mixed success filling the holes on the deck. I worked out a way to fill them and match the nonskid. I took a double layer of blue masking tape and punched a quarter inch hole it and put the tape over the quarter inch hole on the deck. Then I would mix and color gelcoat to match the nonskid. Fill the hole level with the tape (two layers works OK, three maybe too high- haven't completely worked that out). Remove the tape.

Then I used "aqua-mend" epoxy putty and made some stamps with the nonskid pattern and put them over the gelcoat.

Sorry, I don't have any pics of the results yet. The level of success depends a lot on the color match. Sometimes the gelcoat plug would
stick to the stamp and come out. If I'm not satisfied then I just drill it out with a 1/4" drill bit and do it over. Anyhow it's cosmetic since I injected Git-Rot in all the holes last spring. I doubt if I'll do anymore on that 'til springtime. I can even do it when she's in the water.

Mainly I want to have her ready to sail first.

I have to install a compass.

I'm working on the deck layout for the cockpit led lines. I installed two Lewmar #6 winches on the cabintop and am figuring out the location for the turning blocks. I replaced the old Barlow single speed primary winches with Lewmar two speeds. I'm converting the external halyards to internal and I have to install exit plates on the mast for them. I've got to add reef lines on the boom. First, second and flattening.

I have to rewire the mast. I'm adding an anchor light, a vhf antenna, and a windex light. The cabin needs to be rewired. I'm changing the location of the circuit panel. I'm replacing the nav lights. No LEDs yet.

All the teak trim needs to be reinstalled.

The galley should be bleached and finished- after she's sailing.

I'm going to clean the cushions (what is it with all these ugly damn plaid cushions) for now. They should get me through next summer. Then I want to replace the ugly damn plaid cushions with new covers. The foam still looks OK.

Instrumentation will have to wait also. I haven't figured out where to put the knotmeter and depthsounder. A season on the water will give me a better idea on placement.

The name needs to go on before launch, but that'll be easy.

If you can think of anything else, let me know.

Rich

Rich,

To keep the putty molds from sticking try or combine these to methods.

Scran wrap - a.k.a. plastic wrap and not wax paper as used on gel coat by the yards. Real waxed wax paper is hard to find. The supermarket stuff often soaks thru. That is becomes permanent.

Coat the plugs with plug release wax. This stuff can be gotton from Worst Marine or those sites that I have mentioned previously. You have to clean wax coating off. Most use acetone to do that after molded part hardens and before full cure.

If you use Scran wrap and you wait until fully cured it might not come off. Scran wrap gives the surface a very smooth finish, as on original gel coat finish on a boat.

Just do one spot to see if technique will work for you. Do not do many then find out the Scran wrap does not come off with the filler product you are using.

Also if you pulled the filled holes out, you waited too long between layers. One the underlying layer fully cures, after 72 hours, I doubt anything will stick without ruffing surface and washing with acetone.

So, doing such project keep to injecting and when injected epoxy is hard to touch but not cured inject next layer. The curing time for epoxies varies with temperature and type of epoxy used. That is why West System uses three types of catalyst.

Keep in mind that there are cold weather epoxies that can routinely be used to about 40 degrees. But even those should not be allowed to freeze until cured.

Ed K
26

 

[emergpa1]

Way to go!

Sounds like you have done alot, and are a long way toward getting her back into the water. It is a lot of work isn't it? There are many times i wish i would have bought a better maintained boat, but then i think that the experience and knowledge i have gained has been worth the time and money. I feel pretty confident that if there are problems with the boat that i can fix it myself. Of course I am not including engine work.

I like your plug pattern idea, that is pretty cool.

If you are going to pull wire in your boat, check out a wire fish tape, and also a ratchet crimper and and a stripper. You probably saw my thread where i listed my suppliers of choice for those things.

I ended up choosing the reya/dolphin 15 amp charger to maintain the two deep cycle marine batteries i got from walmart. It's a little expensive but is sophisticated, so if it saves one battery replacement it will have paid for itself, also when i get to the boat, i would rather not have to worry about dead batteries.

I guess you read the article in a recent this old boat about using a fish finder for a depth sounder. It looked like a good idea as you get more info, and they are cheaper too. But i didn't like the way they mounted, you have to have a console, and we don't. I will probabley use moore electronics analoge gauges when i can buy them, but will waint till next winter's pull out they have a traditional look, and mount on our cockpit cabin bulkhead area (whatever that area is along side the gangway, can somebody clue me in on what that area is called in the picture below?

. I would like to sail her this year and see what i think she really needs. i am sure there are alot of things i am not aware of. I boat in the backyard is not the same as a boat in the water!

Keith

 

[RichBone]

I don't know, on this boat there's not a lot of room to mount them on the bulkhead and if someone is sitting there they'll be blocked. Same for the compass. With the compass, if you're sitting on the starboard side and if it's mounted on port you won't have a good viewing angle because it's mounted so far outboard. Such a wide companionway. Plus you'll ruin the only semblance of a backrest that you have in the cockpit.
This is where the PO mounted his.

I plan on mounting my compass where the depth sounder is just above the c/b cleat- which I'll relocate. I figure that the hole is already there anyway. That is also why I'm moving the electrical panel which would be just forward of the compass. . And I will be removing that inclinometer.

Rich

 

[gabriel.donnelly]

Wow... Nice work, I'm in a simmilar situation here.

I've got a lot of the same issues... and plans for my 25'. I also have the Head floor problem you mentioned, though the leak was from my stancion.

I'm pulling out all the upholstry along the inside of the hull because its deteriorated to the point that when you run your finger down it it turns to a chalky dust! Nasty! Using a scraper and a stiff wire brush has been pretty good besides the sore shoulders for the entire week... My plan is to glass in some spacers and install horizonal bead board for the "wooden boat feel in it's place...

The gally is gonna get a minor re-config but thats in my wifes hands... come to think of it, It's all in her hands -she's designed how she wants the interior then just tells me what to do. Awesome. She is a great help though.

The teak deckside all needs replacing, any suggestions where to get this?

Mast needs some wiring and light bulbs.

I've replaced all the halliards as well as the topping lift. Still to do: Main sheet, Vang and all the cam cleats and one winch (on mast) is bad.

Gotta install my compass.

Rewire the whole thing.

AND... did I mention that this undertaking is going on while she's in the water? Yup!

Everything looks great on your end, keep up the good work!

 

[sail2kn0m0r]

Oday Depthsounder

Hello Rich, I've attached a photo, as taken from inside the salon, showing how previous owner mounted a "L" mount for the Humminbird depth sounder/fish finder. Seems the previous owner felt the same way about a semblance of a backrest. The transducer is mounted under the starboard settee just forward of the galley. It works as I witnessed, although I would have preferred the transducer to have been run and installed under the v-berth.

I have an original but dead display on the portside, hidden in the picture by the depth sounder. It still has power run to it so I figure I'd remove it and cover the hole with a vent cap, similar to this, but mine is plastic
http://shop.torresen.com/ships_stor...nt+Cover+-+Black&sectionid=2536&imgsize=large
Then since I have "L" bracket I was going to add my bracket and then
tap the line, nearby, to power my LOWRANCE iFinder H2O Handheld GPS Receiver, that I kept from my previous sailboat.

Anyone has "vent" added to their Oday?

Daniel
Forked River NJ
1985 Oday 26

 

[RichBone]

I ended up choosing the reya/dolphin 15 amp charger to maintain the two deep cycle marine batteries i got from walmart. It's a little expensive but is sophisticated, so if it saves one battery replacement it will have paid for itself, also when i get to the boat, i would rather not have to worry about dead batteries.

Keith

How did you mount your batteries?

Rich

 

[emergpa1]

right now they are on a little platform that is attached to the bottom just aft of the starboard rear bulkhead. i have it in one of those plastic batter boxes just attached with a strap. that has to be beefed up.
i don't actually have two batteries attached yet just one. i was not sure how to wire the second battery and have that on the to learn then to do list.