Revisted: Anything Wrong With Used 30 Year Old Sail Cloth?

Jun 21, 2007
2,118
Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
To start, back October 2013, one or two of the thread participants of a thread with this title asked for an eventual status report.*

18 months later, after several fits and starts on the sail cut-down project, it is finally on my boat. Picture below. To summarize the background: An extremely heavy Dacron fabric weight mainsail came into my possession. Markings indicated probably original manufacture by North Sails was 1980-1983. Other than yellowing with age, the sail was in very good condition. Problem: At 49' luff, it was too big for my boat with a 41' spec. So a cut-down was required. By chance, at 8' up from the tack (49' - 41' = 8'), the potentially new foot measurement was perfect for my boat's boom length. So a DIY mod seemed doable.

I am pleased with the outcome. My main observation is that the project entailed a lot more work and time than I originally anticipated. For a non sail maker, the number of variables and permutations to think about before each step were significant. And when I eventually installed the sail, further adjustments were necessary.

The modification at first seemed simple, but with only a heavy duty home sewing machine, and no real sail maker's experience other than the occasional DIY repair/mod, the challenges turned out to be many. One for example is that the original sail's second reef fortunately matched-up in a reasonable position for the cut-down's first reef location. But a second reef location needed to be added. Another was that although I had calculated that after the cut-down, the roach/leach would clear my back stay, it didn't. Hung up when tacking. Same for the head-board. It extended too far back and would lodge on one side of my back stay at the masthead when the sail was full up. The sail also featured a leach cord that ran through blocks mounted on the head board and down to the tack for adjustment at the mast. Cutting the sail down required some modifications to the leach cord system.


(* Just to mention that I did want to hit "reply" within the original now 18 month old thread with the above title. But the option wasn't there. Either the thread was too old, or the feature is lost due to the recent upgrades to SBO's website. Anyway, here is the link if anyone cares to read: http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=1068541&highlight=cloth)
 

Attachments

Mar 26, 2011
3,961
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
To start, back October 2013, one or two of the thread participants of a thread with this title asked for an eventual status report.*

18 months later, after several fits and starts on the sail cut-down project, it is finally on my boat. Picture below. To summarize the background: An extremely heavy Dacron fabric weight mainsail came into my possession. Markings indicated probably original manufacture by North Sails was 1980-1983. Other than yellowing with age, the sail was in very good condition. Problem: At 49' luff, it was too big for my boat with a 41' spec. So a cut-down was required. By chance, at 8' up from the tack (49' - 41' = 8'), the potentially new foot measurement was perfect for my boat's boom length. So a DIY mod seemed doable.

I am pleased with the outcome. My main observation is that the project entailed a lot more work and time than I originally anticipated. For a non sail maker, the number of variables and permutations to think about before each step were significant. And when I eventually installed the sail, further adjustments were necessary.

The modification at first seemed simple, but with only a heavy duty home sewing machine, and no real sail maker's experience other than the occasional DIY repair/mod, the challenges turned out to be many. One for example is that the original sail's second reef fortunately matched-up in a reasonable position for the cut-down's first reef location. But a second reef location needed to be added. Another was that although I had calculated that after the cut-down, the roach/leach would clear my back stay, it didn't. Hung up when tacking. Same for the head-board. It extended too far back and would lodge on one side of my back stay at the masthead when the sail was full up. The sail also featured a leach cord that ran through blocks mounted on the head board and down to the tack for adjustment at the mast. Cutting the sail down required some modifications to the leach cord system.


(* Just to mention that I did want to hit "reply" within the original now 18 month old thread with the above title. But the option wasn't there. Either the thread was too old, or the feature is lost due to the recent upgrades to SBO's website. Anyway, here is the link if anyone cares to read: http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?p=1068541&highlight=cloth)
Nice.

My concern is that the draft up high is excessive (looks like near 20%). Not the end of the word, as that can be simple to fix by opening a few seams and taking them in a little (more overlap). One of the easiest adjustments on a cross cut main. But it could just be the adjustments.
 
Jun 21, 2007
2,118
Hunter Cherubini 36_80-82 Sausalito / San Francisco Bay
Nice.

My concern is that the draft up high is excessive (looks like near 20%). Not the end of the word, as that can be simple to fix by opening a few seams and taking them in a little (more overlap). One of the easiest adjustments on a cross cut main. But it could just be the adjustments.
Thanks the observation. I think the pronounced draft might have been because I wasn't paying much attention yet to sail trim yet. Just glad to see the sail was actually flying! The photo taken while on a close reach, but with the boom vang slack as well as the mainsheet not tensioned much. So the boom likely was risen up. Lot's a slop in the fabric and twist.
 
Nov 26, 2012
2,315
Catalina 250 Bodega Bay CA
Re: Revisted: Anything Wrong With Used 30 Year Old Sail Clot

Looks great! Sail it and adjust as needed! You did it and that has to feel good. Chief