Respirator?
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Bob
I can't suggest one based on price but if you want to buy one, regardless of price, check it first to make sure it fits properly. There are many different shapes of faces as well as respirators and no one works for everyone.
First, cartridge respirators are much more protective than paper ones. They all advertize porosity size but efficiency is a different measure and the cartridge ones win that contest consistently.
Before purchasing any one, put it on, tighten the straps and place the palm of your hands on each side and inhale. If you can (inhale), pick a different one that fits better.
I can't suggest one based on price but if you want to buy one, regardless of price, check it first to make sure it fits properly. There are many different shapes of faces as well as respirators and no one works for everyone.
First, cartridge respirators are much more protective than paper ones. They all advertize porosity size but efficiency is a different measure and the cartridge ones win that contest consistently.
Before purchasing any one, put it on, tighten the straps and place the palm of your hands on each side and inhale. If you can (inhale), pick a different one that fits better.
I usually put my hands over each opening the cartridges screw onto and inhale. They are not expensive. The biggest expense is the cartridges, but they are typically a standard thread and can be used on any respirator. Please note that there are many types of cartridges and combo cartridges (organic vapor and particulates for example). There are also adaptors that allow you to snap on particulate filters to any other cartridge. The 3M respirator commonly carried at Lowes for around $30 is decent. It is for organic vapors and particulates and comes with one set of cartridges. Replacement cartridges are a good deal at $15.
The disposable paper ones are useless... except as a placebo... get a good full-face respirator mask, like a 3m 6000 series mask. WHile they're a bit expensive, they last a long, long time... and are far more comfortable and protective than the goggles and half-mask options.
Fit is very important... as Don points out.
Fit is very important... as Don points out.
Thanks everyone. I was looking online @ McMaster Carr and got quickly confused as BobM described. There are so many types of cartridges.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#respirators/=6j5w6t
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When it say's organic vapor, what are they referring to? Could you use it when working on the holding tank to reduce the gagging reflex?
sailingdog - I am only working on a small area and money a little tighter this year. The full face respirators and $200+.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#respirators/=6j5w6t
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When it say's organic vapor, what are they referring to? Could you use it when working on the holding tank to reduce the gagging reflex?
sailingdog - I am only working on a small area and money a little tighter this year. The full face respirators and $200+.
Gag reflex
Sure could...won't stop your eyes from watering though :wow:When it say's organic vapor, what are they referring to? Could you use it when working on the holding tank to reduce the gagging reflex?
sander and vacuum
Hi,
I can't help with a respirator recommendation. I do want to suggest that you use a sander with a dust collector that uses a shop vac with a filter. That will make you neighbors (and you) a lot happier than just filling the entire area with paint dust.
Barry
Hi,
I can't help with a respirator recommendation. I do want to suggest that you use a sander with a dust collector that uses a shop vac with a filter. That will make you neighbors (and you) a lot happier than just filling the entire area with paint dust.
Barry
I don't know where you're shopping, but the full-face models I've bought were $130 or so...and the major advantage is that they last for years. The only reason I had to buy two more is because I was working on a larger project and needed to protect my crew. The oldest one I have is at least ten years old....and still going strong...so they're a lot cheaper than the disposables in the long run.
Thanks everyone. I was looking online @ McMaster Carr and got quickly confused as BobM described. There are so many types of cartridges.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#respirators/=6j5w6t
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When it say's organic vapor, what are they referring to? Could you use it when working on the holding tank to reduce the gagging reflex?
sailingdog - I am only working on a small area and money a little tighter this year. The full face respirators and $200+.
The major advantage of my 3M 6000 full face is that my face does not burn and itch from the copper paint and chemical dust. Once you begin sanding bottom paint your face can get awfully irritated and itchy. I use a tyvek suit with hood and my full face. It rarely if ever fogs. I have had this particular mask well over ten years, and re-polished the lens a few times so it is still quite clear.
It can get hot but beats the chemical burning I get from sanding. You can buy a 3M full face for well under $100.00. Shop at safety supply stores and you'll likely find them cheaper. They come in three sizes so you might want to find a local shop to try them on as fit is everything. The half masks are cheaper but I won't use them for sanding a bottom. Definitely invest in some tyvek suits too...
They sell a 3M unit at Home Depot for SPRAY PAINT with the correct organic vapor filters AND changeable PRE-FILTERS which keep dust from clogging the organic filter
As and eyeglass wearing person the full face never worked well for me and i ALWAYS ventilate enough that its not and issue
As far as fit they sell packets of SMELL that if you can smell its NOT working
As and eyeglass wearing person the full face never worked well for me and i ALWAYS ventilate enough that its not and issue
As far as fit they sell packets of SMELL that if you can smell its NOT working
But...
...I bet you would make a cute Smurf...assuming your bottom paint is blue of course
It's black...no comment.......I bet you would make a cute Smurf...assuming your bottom paint is blue of course
While this is a good idea, gloves are actually more important than a respirator when working with epoxy. If you don't wear gloves it is pretty easy and fairly common to get a nasty allergic reaction to the amine compounds in the epoxy that can lead to contact dermatitis and such.
Wearing a respirator is far more important when working with teak, bottom paint, colloidial silica, or polyester/vinylester resins, since these are far more damaging to the lungs than the fumes from epoxy.
Wearing a respirator is far more important when working with teak, bottom paint, colloidial silica, or polyester/vinylester resins, since these are far more damaging to the lungs than the fumes from epoxy.
Bob S...
as someone who has had lung surgery to remove a benign mass, I can tell you emphatically what the pulmonary surgeon told me. Teak resin in the dust will irritate the lung and the body will react by trying to encapsulate it as a foreign body. This builds up nodules that block the minute air passages deep within the lung nodes. Inhale enough of it over time and you will slowly loose lung capacity and end up just like the asbestos workers.
Another Dan.
as someone who has had lung surgery to remove a benign mass, I can tell you emphatically what the pulmonary surgeon told me. Teak resin in the dust will irritate the lung and the body will react by trying to encapsulate it as a foreign body. This builds up nodules that block the minute air passages deep within the lung nodes. Inhale enough of it over time and you will slowly loose lung capacity and end up just like the asbestos workers.
Another Dan.
Glad to help.
Teak is one of the worst woods to work with, especially if you're sanding it.- Status