Replacing waste hoses on a 302

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bobkay

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Jan 22, 2008
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Hunter 39.5 Toronto ON
My hoses stink. This forum has been helpful in informing me about what hose to use to replace these old hoses. I haven't actually bought the necessary length of hose yet. I wonder if someone who has done this knows how much hose I actually need to replace both the hose from the waste tank to the pump out fitting, and the hose from the toilet to the waste tank. And is there anything I should know before I attempt this. Is it a difficult job? The existing white corrugated hose appears to be pretty stiff. I figure this may be mostly because the temperature here (in Toronto, Ontario) is around freezing. I figured a hair dryer will soften them up somewhat. Should I feed the new hose from the waste tank end or the cockpit locker end? And advice would be appreciated.
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Bob K
 

DannyS

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May 27, 2004
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Beneteau 393 Bayfield, Wi
When we bought our O'day 35, the hoses were all permeated. That's a nasty smell! Going against popular opinion, I decided to remove the whole works and replace it with a porta pottie. That was two years ago and every now and then, I still get a whiff of that smell, especially when we return to the boat and it has been cooped up for a few days. Perhaps someday I'll go back to a traditional marine head/holding tank, but for now, I like the porta pot. One of the biggest reasons for going this rout came from Peggy, "The Head Mistress". I don't have the exact figures but as I recall, a 5 gallon porta pot is roughly equivalent to a 13 gallon holding tank (which is what we had on board) when you factor in the amount of water that needs to be used in order to push the waste from the bowl, to the tank in order to keep the hoses free of the waste that permeates them. Most people don't use enough water to keep the hoses free and clean because they think they'll fill up the tank too quickly and will have to pump out more often. That may be true, but the waste is now sitting in the hoses and not in the tank where it should be.
My location of the tank was under the v berth and the space is plenty large enough for a larger tank but the opening to get the tank in is narrow so I'd have to cut the opening larger to get it in, more work than I wanted.
Probably more info than you wanted on such a nasty subject, but it's worth considering.
I bought a porta pot that can be plumbed in to have a traditional pumpout but I haven't done that yet. We cruise in more wilderness areas without pumpouts available everywhere so I like the idea of just taking the tank off the boat and unloading it (in the proper manner) without having to find a marina with pumpout facilities.
 

bobkay

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Jan 22, 2008
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Hunter 39.5 Toronto ON
the portapotty is tempting...

But my waste tank is midships on the starboard side, maybe 8 feet from the toilet, not that long a hose. Yes the smell is worst when the boat has been closed up in the hot sun for a few days. The cockpit locker is pretty bad too. Hopefully I won't have to smell that smell again.
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Bob K
 

DannyS

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May 27, 2004
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Beneteau 393 Bayfield, Wi
That's about the length ours was, 8 to 10 feet max. That's still quite a distance to push the waste. Think about the water needed to make sure the hoses get sufficiently cleaned out so they don't permeate again. Most people I know use just enough water to get the bowl clean and think that a few pumps takes care of things. They don't want to use too much so they don't have to pump out too soon.
I'm not trying to convince you to go the route I did, but I'm guessing that O'day probably used the same tanks in the different sized boats so I'd check to see if the tank is permeated. Mine was. Once I got mine out, I cleaned it and it sat alongside my garage in the shade for months and it stunk as bad as it did the day it came out. If that is the case, new hoses won't help you. The other thing is that smell takes a long time to go away, if it ever will. The area under the v berth still reeks when I open it up. This after I spent a couple of hours with diluted bleach scouring that compartment. I thought I'd gain storage by removing the tank but anything I keep in there comes out with that smell.
As I said before, I haven't abandoned the idea of putting the marine head/holding tank back in the boat eventually, but I like that the boat is starting to smell better and better with time so I'm not in any rush.
 
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