replacing stays

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Dan Geltmacher

I have a Forestay that has stranded on me. I just left the yard(Dec) and don't want to go back. I'm thinking about doing the job myself, in the slip, with the mast up. I plan on using the Jib Halyard as a temp stay while I remove, measure and replace the old one. Any ideas? If I make it through this job I'm gonna tackle the rest of the stays. Hawaii Dan Illusions
 
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Sam Lust

Rig replacement

Dan -- If you're a moderately competent mechanic replacing your standing rigging just isn't that big a deal. I did my 33 myself last spring, although the mast was down. (It comes down every winter because the boat is stored in my side yard over the winter - You know, that part of the year when on the East coast we get freezing weather and snow?) I talked with several rigging suppliers and they all recommended using Sta-Lock fittings. I ended up buying mail order from JSI in Florida at "show" pricing at the Atlantic City Sail Show. Measurements needed to be only close. I had them swage on the top fittings, a little bit cheaper than the Sat-Locks, and with the opening of the fitting facing down there's no worry about salt water resting inside the fitting and causing corrosion. When the rigging arrived I just matched each piece up, cut the wire to exact length and tightened on the Sta-Lock, using a dab of 5200 on final assembly to keep salt water out. Really a piece of cake. While I was there I did a few modifications. I hated the split back stay because I kept smacking my head and shoulder on it so it became a twin back stay like on an Island Packet. (Closest I'll ever get to one!) I increased the size of the head stay from 1/4" to 9/32". All the riggers said it was unnecessary but it made me feel better and only made pennies difference in the price. I feel infinitely better KNOWING my rig is fresh and strong. One thing the riggers were unanimous on was that if the rig is beyond 10 years old it should be replaced.
 
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Tim

How are you planning to attach the top of the stay

You're not plannin on going up the mast with the forestay not on the boat are you? That's crazy. What does your stem fitting look like? Can you temporarily attach two stays? i.e. go up the mast and measure; get a new stay and attach the new stay before releasing the old. Even at that, I think the $200 or so to have someone unstep the mast is a reasonable expense vs. going up and down a mast that has a damaged stay.
 
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Henry Weber

Stay replacement with mast in place

Dan: Over the past 3 months I have replaced first the forestay,then the backstay and now 2 of the shrouds. The boat is H30/1977. Previous owner had once replaced all rigging and used StaLock fittings which were still okay. I first measured the stay length by using a tape measure, halyard, and binoculars; purchased 42'of 1/4" 1x19 316 SS wire rope (.92/ft) plus 2 1/4" StaLok wedges (2.55 ea.); hold mast in place using a spare halyard. Use main halyard to hoist helper to mast head; (best to use 3rd halyard as safety on the helper). Loosen bottom end of stay; have helper remove top end (only a cotter pin and clevis). Cut exact length of new stay using old as pattern, install fittings, (don't forget the sealer) and reverse the above steps to install the stay. Takes a coulple of hours and only about $40 to $50. The yard wanted almost $400. You should get someone who has done it to demonstrate how to install the StayLok fitting. The guy who sold me the cable did it for me in the shop. It really is quite easy after the first one but there is a knack to getting the wedge over the center strands and positioned properly. Good luck and if you have any questions I would be happy to help with any details. Henry
 
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