Replacing an AC circuit breaker/ twin headsails

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Hermit Scott

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I believe it got a little water in it from a leaky port. But it worked for a while. Now one side will stay in the on position, while the other will not stay in the on position. It is original equipment Catalina circa 1979. BTW there was a pole connecting the two arms together but I had to take it off to uninstall it. I am looking at this one. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|296553|299262|825435&id=673281
I was wondering if marine circuit breakers are universal fit. Or is it like residential breakers, SquareD only fits squareD, Ge for Ge...etc..?

I got the furler installed today. The wind at the dock was 25 or 30 so I didn't want to get blown off the deck trying to hoist a sail and then get it furled. I didn't even attempt to sail today. But it's up and almost ready to go.
It turns out I have 2 150 genoas. There are two grooves in the furler. When running is it worth it to hoist the other 150 or is it better to run with one headsail and bear off instead of running DDW?
If I do run both of them, do I need poles to hold them out, do I use the mainsail at the same time as the two headsails?
 

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novelman17130

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When I had my 1984 Catalina 30' and sailed it out of Long Beach California, and a single 150, I never felt the need of twin head sails, bit did use a whisker pole with great results. In fact one time from Marina del Rey to Long Beach, pegged it at 10 knots and averaged over 8 knots for the 30 nautical miles. Had a great time. Will forward the story I wrote about it if you like. BE SURE YOU USE A PREVENTER ON THE MAIN!
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sinnettc

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Technically, bearing off should be faster than ddw, but I think 2x 150's poled out does look kinda cool.
 
Joe

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With all due respect.... Just use one headsail at a time, until you get more experience. You'd need two poles and the appropriate gear. Cruisers always drop the main when running twin headsails.

Most don't go to all the trouble of rigging twin headsails unless they're on a very, very long run,(all day, for example) instead choosing to run wing on wing by poling out the genny and preventing the main............. or......... just jibing downwind.
 
sailingdog

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Hermit Scott said:
I believe it got a little water in it from a leaky port. But it worked for a while. Now one side will stay in the on position, while the other will not stay in the on position. It is original equipment Catalina circa 1979. BTW there was a pole connecting the two arms together but I had to take it off to uninstall it. I am looking at this one. http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|328|296553|299262|825435&id=673281
I was wondering if marine circuit breakers are universal fit. Or is it like residential breakers, SquareD only fits squareD, Ge for Ge...etc..?
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They're pretty universal on a boat...

I got the furler installed today. The wind at the dock was 25 or 30 so I didn't want to get blown off the deck trying to hoist a sail and then get it furled. I didn't even attempt to sail today. But it's up and almost ready to go.
It turns out I have 2 150 genoas. There are two grooves in the furler. When running is it worth it to hoist the other 150 or is it better to run with one headsail and bear off instead of running DDW?
If I do run both of them, do I need poles to hold them out, do I use the mainsail at the same time as the two headsails?
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Unless you're sailing in the trades for a few days, hoisting two gennys doesn't make any sense.
 
Ross

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In the interest of saving your hide for another day, make certain that the link between the breaker handles is kept in place. It is there to interrupt both sides of the power supply if one side trips it drags the other side along.
You can sail in any manner that pleases you.
 
Hermit Scott

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Joe said:
With all due respect.... Just use one headsail at a time, until you get more experience. You'd need two poles and the appropriate gear. Cruisers always drop the main when running twin headsails.

Most don't go to all the trouble of rigging twin headsails unless they're on a very, very long run,(all day, for example) instead choosing to run wing on wing by poling out the genny and preventing the main............. or......... just jibing downwind.
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No offense taken, I am a babe in the woods out on the water.
What is the hazzard of running two headsail on one furler like that? I have watched some videos of big boats getting whipped all over the water and knocked down when gusts come along and catch the spinniker just right.
Ross-I will make sure to have the bar in place when I install the new one.
 
LANCE ON CLOUD NINE

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Scott- old low- tech Lance can't seem to get the link to work- BUT- There is a great little vid of twin head sails being used on You Tube. Search "sailing kite cam compilation" on You tube. Make sure to watch the whole vid.
 
Hermit Scott

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LANCE ON CLOUD NINE said:
Scott- old low- tech Lance can't seem to get the link to work- BUT- There is a great little vid of twin head sails being used on You Tube. Search "sailing kite cam compilation" on You tube. Make sure to watch the whole vid.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKGupz_9mGc
I watched it. That guy did have poles on both sails and the main put away. It doesn't look too hard. Is there a danger to this I am not seeing? Why would it be a bad thing for me to try this?
I figure if I put a block on the halyard swivel and run a line over the block to the head of each sail, I can hoist both sails on the furler and furl them in together if I get into any trouble.
Is this a feasible plan for a noob?
 
LANCE ON CLOUD NINE

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You can do it! Find a light wind day, a couple of listening crew members , get plenty of room to go ddw , and just unfurl a small amount at a time. Good luck. Out.
 
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novelman17130

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I would not use two headsails with twin whisper poles. If you do so just remember if the wind pipes up someone will have to go forward to release the poles so that you can furl the head sails and that is no fun in a blow. If you want to use twin head sails I would not use whisker poles , just leave them free to fiurl. Your Catalina will go faster than hull speed if you just go wing-on-wing and use a preventer on the mainsail.
novelman
 
Ross

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Twin head sails are common self steering tradewinds methods for atlantic crossings.
 
LANCE ON CLOUD NINE

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I have sailed with twin headails- but never with 2 poles. It seems you could adjust the poles to a length where they could be left on while the sails are furled and then removed. Anybody else have experience doing this?
 
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