Replace standing rigging H49

[ScottySailor]

Hey all Just had the boat inspected that I’m looking to buy and the rigger said the standing rigging should be okay for the next two or three years then probably replace has anyone had this done any idea on a rough cost? Trying to plan and budget for it.
boat is 2009.
thanks
Scotty sailor

 

[sail sfbay]

The cost to replace standing rigging obviously varies from boat to boat, whether you drop the mast, fabricate the rigging yourself, have others fabricate the rigging and you install or hire a rigger to replace it turnkey.

Do you plan to replace it yourself? If so, you can buy the parts from your local chandlery and fabricate and install them to savecost, or take or send your rigging to your local West Marine in Alameda for Wayne to price it up or on-line suppliers like Sec South Standing Rigging - Seco South , Rig Rite Replacing Your Standing Rigging - Rigworks Cable Loft Standing Rigging - Cable Loft Rig Works Replacing Your Standing Rigging - Rigworks and other on-line suppliers, then install yourself. If you want a turnkey replacment suggest contacting one or more local riggers as there are a number of them in the San Francisco Bay. I know a number of them in Sausalito, Richmond, Berkeley and Alameda. For budgeting purposes, plan on $10,000+ in the San Franciso Bay.

You might find this article on how to measure helpful: How to Measure Standing Rigging (sailingservices.com)

 

[shemandr]

... the rigger said the standing rigging should be okay for the next two or three years then probably replace...

I wouldn't expect a rigger to certify the rig for longer than that. To do so would make him responsible for a whole lot of outcomes which are impossible to predict or control the risk of.

 

[sail sfbay]

I wouldn't expect a rigger to certify the rig for longer than that..........

Dittto shemandr..................that is exactly what my rigger told me about my 2004 Hunter 386 back in 2018. Good plan to have the rigging inspected periodically. My 2005 Hunter 46 is still sound after 16 years so expect more life out of it.

You might find this article helpful: Inspecting, Maintaining and Replacing Standing Rigging - Sail Magazine

 

[SEMPERAVANTI41]

Unless the rigging has been damaged mechanically, I bet it's going to be fine for 5 plus years. Maybe getting a drone and doing a close inspection yearly would be a good idea.

 

[Terry Cox]

Hi Scotty, our 1991 boat has the original standing rigging. I inspect it annually and it remains in good condition with no signs of deterioration. An area to check is the place you cannot see; the hull chain plate. Our boat has a steel rod that connects the deck chain plate to the hull chainplate. That chainplate was glassed into the hull during layup. Ours remains in good condition. However, if over time water seeps down around the hull chainplate corrosion can weaken the material and result in failure. Best to inspect that with a small scope.

Had our plans changed to include some serious blue water sailing, say to Hawaii, I would have replaced the rigging. But since it is all confined to PNW protected waters, no need to replace until I can observe any signs of deterioration or weakness.

 

[jssailem]

Hey Scotty. New to you boat. Fun times for you.

Rigging.. It is the key to sailing happiness. Even a great rigger can only best guess how munch more time you will have in your existing rigging. If you have concern the time to change it is now. They have no idea how you will sail the boat. What stresses you will put on it in the conditions you sail/cruise. If you are that mystical grand mother sho only takes the boat out on pleasant Sunday afternoons in gentle breezes, then your rigging could last many years. On the other hand being the rough and adventurous sailor braving the Golden Gate winter storms every chance you get might have the rigging down about your knees like my grandson rushing to get to the potty.

Rigging is not just the wires.

1. It is the mast.
2. The spreaders.
3. The way the wires are attached to mast and hull.
4. The condition and size of the wires that form the shrouds.
5. If rod rigging it includes the rod heads and the slot connections in the mast.
6. The pins connecting the shrouds to the chainplates.
7. The chainplates.
8. The hull or bulk connections of the chainplates.
9. The symmetry of the system.

Only way I know you can get assurance for ocean passaging, is to take the rig down and have each component examined and replaced should it need the service. While you have it down clean up any poor design or provide improvements to the systems so that they all work together. This means boat Mast and Boom rigging.

When I did refit the standing rigging to my 40 plus year old boat, the cost was about $11K all considered and took 2.5 months with mast in the boat yard. This included new furler, shrouds, refurbished chain plates, mast electrical, mast head with spinnaker crane, sheaves, pins, all running rigging, and mast winches.

Knowing that the rig is properly prepared, I have confidence in sailing the boat in all conditions I might encounter.

 

[sail sfbay]

I was speaking to a friend last night at our yacht club who told me he just spent $15,000 labor and materials for standing rigging wire replacement on his Hunter 32 in Benicia, California. So, depending on the extent of standing rigging replacement budget, $25,000+ for a Hunter 49.

 

[markwbird]

Just had mine done. Smaller boat. Hunter 34 $6k

 

[Velero49]

Scottysailor, did you get your standing rigging replaced? What was the cost?

 

[artboas]

Not meaning to stir up jealousy, but sitting here on Lake Ontario.. my standing rigging will last longer than my sailing career.
Sailing in beautiful blue ocean water has its costs.

 

[sail sfbay]

Have Rogue Rigging in Berkeley inspect it. Just did that and my 2005 was found to be in new condition.

 

[T J Furstenau]

Not meaning to stir up jealousy, but sitting here on Lake Ontario.. my standing rigging will last longer than my sailing career.
Sailing in beautiful blue ocean water has its costs.

Art -

I hear you, gotta love that fresh water. When my 35.5 hit 20 years old, I asked my marine guy about a full rig inspection due to age. He said that he'd be more than happy to take my money, but due to fresh water and length of season that he had never had to replace a rig due to a failure of a stay or failure of a fitting. Bad tuning, bad assembly, bad owner decisions, those are/were a different issue.

Also a large part of when I moved up to the 49, which is intended to be my "forever" boat, that I looked exclusively on the Great Lakes. The rigging on my 15 year old H49 is effectively like new, especially if compared to a comparable salt water boat. Now I WILL be taking mine to salt water in just a couple of years, and may have to worry about it in the future. But for now, I'm happy to stir up a little jealousy!

T J