replace adler barbour cold machine

[iwillmott]

I think my freezer unit has reached its expiry date..cold plate frosts all over but the unit is starting to cycle, fan runs then stops momentaryily then restarts but the compressor only runs for a few seconds then shuts down for a few minutes..Question is:could a new identical compressor unit just be dropped in to replace the original using the old cold plate and tubes? Because the cold plate frosted equally i thin the freon or whar ever/r 134a stuff is oky in the unit. I can't eat fast enough to use the groceries here in Marsh Harbour

 

[timvg]

Could be the electrical module. The only problem is that you can't purchase one and then return it if it doesn't do the trick. We have replaced the modules on both the fridge and freezer, and both times this did the trick. The model number is an AB 3016 (I think). The last one I got about 3 years ago was from West Marine (special order). It was around $325 or so if I remember correctly.

 

[Richard Kollmann]

Troubleshooting 4 pin modules consists of the following:

1. Place jumper wire across thermostat terminals, Compressor still does not run.

2. Disconnect black fan wire from electronic module. Compressor still does not run after fan ground wire is disconnected. One of the 10 transistors in this fan fails it can cause module to prevent compressor from running.
If Compressor runs after black wire disconnected replace fan.

3. Run correct size and correct polarity fused jumper wires direct from a fully charged battery to module in order to bypass all boat’s wiring. Volt meter readings are of no value at module. Now if compressor runs there is a bad electrical connection somewhere in boats wiring causing a low voltage spike during compressor startup.
Compressor still does not run electronic module needs to be tested on another unit.

I closed my shop but after seeing what is being charged by boat refrigeration companies who will test modules charging $50 and charging as high as $385 for new 4 pin modules, I decided to test and sell modules for a fraction of what is currently being charged.

If your shipping address is in the US I will test your module on my Danfoss compressor refrigeration test stand. This test stand will run at max compressor load for a one hour. I will then return your module to you for a shipping and handling charge of $20.

Four pin modules for BD2.5 and BD3 twelve volt compressors only:


New module non Danfoss $150 plus $15 insured shipping. Modules will only be shipped to addresses in the US.

Because your unit is old and if it needs a new electronic module there is a risk that something is wrong that caused module to fail so most companies will refuse warranty of these modules. This is my electronic module warranty:

If any used module I sell fails to operate your unit it can be returned within 30 days for a full refund.
Any new module I sell can be returned for full credit within 30 days. Because of my own risk involved for the next 11 months I will return only 50% of the new units purchase price if module is returned within the first year.

To have module tested or purchase a new four pin module send check to:

Richard Kollmann
2430 Sugarloaf LN
Ft. Lauderdale FL, 33312

Richard Kollmann
http://www.kollmann-marine.com

 

[Rich Stidger]

Richard Kollmann is a prince. He manages a website that is dedicated to marine refrigeration and will give personal advice to anyone who asks. He has helped me with both my refrigerator and freezer. He offers a book that is available on his website which has a wealth of info about all types and brands of marine refrigeration systems. He also has a book on how to build refrigeration systems.

http://www.kollmann-marine.com/

I wasn't aware that he was monitoring this board, but I applaud his inputs. I have no financial interest in his services - I'm just another one of the people he has helped.

 

[iwillmott]

Troubleshooting 4 pin modules consists of the following:

1. Place jumper wire across thermostat terminals, Compressor still does not run.

2. Disconnect black fan wire from electronic module. Compressor still does not run after fan ground wire is disconnected. One of the 10 transistors in this fan fails it can cause module to prevent compressor from running.
If Compressor runs after black wire disconnected replace fan.

3. Run correct size and correct polarity fused jumper wires direct from a fully charged battery to module in order to bypass all boat’s wiring. Volt meter readings are of no value at module. Now if compressor runs there is a bad electrical connection somewhere in boats wiring causing a low voltage spike during compressor startup.
Compressor still does not run electronic module needs to be tested on another unit.

I closed my shop but after seeing what is being charged by boat refrigeration companies who will test modules charging $50 and charging as high as $385 for new 4 pin modules, I decided to test and sell modules for a fraction of what is currently being charged.

If your shipping address is in the US I will test your module on my Danfoss compressor refrigeration test stand. This test stand will run at max compressor load for a one hour. I will then return your module to you for a shipping and handling charge of $20.

Four pin modules for BD2.5 and BD3 twelve volt compressors only:


New module non Danfoss $150 plus $15 insured shipping. Modules will only be shipped to addresses in the US.

Because your unit is old and if it needs a new electronic module there is a risk that something is wrong that caused module to fail so most companies will refuse warranty of these modules. This is my electronic module warranty:

If any used module I sell fails to operate your unit it can be returned within 30 days for a full refund.
Any new module I sell can be returned for full credit within 30 days. Because of my own risk involved for the next 11 months I will return only 50% of the new units purchase price if module is returned within the first year.

To have module tested or purchase a new four pin module send check to:

Richard Kollmann
2430 Sugarloaf LN
Ft. Lauderdale FL, 33312

Richard Kollmann
http://www.kollmann-marine.com

I am in Marsh Harbour at present....I will try all your recommenmdations to see if it will light up..then I'll get back to you on it. I appreciate your information..

 

[iwillmott]

Troubleshooting 4 pin modules consists of the following:

1. Place jumper wire across thermostat terminals, Compressor still does not run.

2. Disconnect black fan wire from electronic module. Compressor still does not run after fan ground wire is disconnected. One of the 10 transistors in this fan fails it can cause module to prevent compressor from running.
If Compressor runs after black wire disconnected replace fan.

3. Run correct size and correct polarity fused jumper wires direct from a fully charged battery to module in order to bypass all boat’s wiring. Volt meter readings are of no value at module. Now if compressor runs there is a bad electrical connection somewhere in boats wiring causing a low voltage spike during compressor startup.
Compressor still does not run electronic module needs to be tested on another unit.

I closed my shop but after seeing what is being charged by boat refrigeration companies who will test modules charging $50 and charging as high as $385 for new 4 pin modules, I decided to test and sell modules for a fraction of what is currently being charged.

If your shipping address is in the US I will test your module on my Danfoss compressor refrigeration test stand. This test stand will run at max compressor load for a one hour. I will then return your module to you for a shipping and handling charge of $20.

Four pin modules for BD2.5 and BD3 twelve volt compressors only:


New module non Danfoss $150 plus $15 insured shipping. Modules will only be shipped to addresses in the US.

Because your unit is old and if it needs a new electronic module there is a risk that something is wrong that caused module to fail so most companies will refuse warranty of these modules. This is my electronic module warranty:

If any used module I sell fails to operate your unit it can be returned within 30 days for a full refund.
Any new module I sell can be returned for full credit within 30 days. Because of my own risk involved for the next 11 months I will return only 50% of the new units purchase price if module is returned within the first year.

To have module tested or purchase a new four pin module send check to:

Richard Kollmann
2430 Sugarloaf LN
Ft. Lauderdale FL, 33312

Richard Kollmann
http://www.kollmann-marine.com

I took the black wire from the fan off of the control box:fan still ran. jumped the thermostat:fan ran. when it first powers up it loads(compressor runs)for maybe 30 seconds then the compressor drops off leaving the fan going. ?

 

[iwillmott]

the number on the contril is danfoss 102N3031..

Troubleshooting 4 pin modules consists of the following:

1. Place jumper wire across thermostat terminals, Compressor still does not run.

2. Disconnect black fan wire from electronic module. Compressor still does not run after fan ground wire is disconnected. One of the 10 transistors in this fan fails it can cause module to prevent compressor from running.
If Compressor runs after black wire disconnected replace fan.

3. Run correct size and correct polarity fused jumper wires direct from a fully charged battery to module in order to bypass all boat’s wiring. Volt meter readings are of no value at module. Now if compressor runs there is a bad electrical connection somewhere in boats wiring causing a low voltage spike during compressor startup.
Compressor still does not run electronic module needs to be tested on another unit.

I closed my shop but after seeing what is being charged by boat refrigeration companies who will test modules charging $50 and charging as high as $385 for new 4 pin modules, I decided to test and sell modules for a fraction of what is currently being charged.

If your shipping address is in the US I will test your module on my Danfoss compressor refrigeration test stand. This test stand will run at max compressor load for a one hour. I will then return your module to you for a shipping and handling charge of $20.

Four pin modules for BD2.5 and BD3 twelve volt compressors only:


New module non Danfoss $150 plus $15 insured shipping. Modules will only be shipped to addresses in the US.

Because your unit is old and if it needs a new electronic module there is a risk that something is wrong that caused module to fail so most companies will refuse warranty of these modules. This is my electronic module warranty:

If any used module I sell fails to operate your unit it can be returned within 30 days for a full refund.
Any new module I sell can be returned for full credit within 30 days. Because of my own risk involved for the next 11 months I will return only 50% of the new units purchase price if module is returned within the first year.

To have module tested or purchase a new four pin module send check to:

Richard Kollmann
2430 Sugarloaf LN
Ft. Lauderdale FL, 33312

Richard Kollmann
http://www.kollmann-marine.com

 

[Richard Kollmann]

There is some confusion the black fan wire should be connected to the F terminal on control 102N3031 module unless you have an Adler Barbour super cold machine. To eliminate fan as causing problem disconnect wire from terminal F and see if compressor will run without fan connected. On your unit if the F terminal is trying to ground a load of more than one amp module will stop compressor thinking condenser may overheat.

If problem is not the fan then the next step in troubleshooting is to bypass all boat wiring as instructed before. 90% of the time trouble is linked to a resistance connection in boats wiring causing a low voltage spike during compressor start up.

 

[iwillmott]

There is some confusion the black fan wire should be connected to the F terminal on control 102N3031 module unless you have an Adler Barbour super cold machine. To eliminate fan as causing problem disconnect wire from terminal F and see if compressor will run without fan connected. On your unit if the F terminal is trying to ground a load of more than one amp module will stop compressor thinking condenser may overheat.

If problem is not the fan then the next step in troubleshooting is to bypass all boat wiring as instructed before. 90% of the time trouble is linked to a resistance connection in boats wiring causing a low voltage spike during compressor start up.

okay i'll try that:anything. I appreciate your interest and advice