Relative weights for different Catalina 22 model years

[shariwynd]

We recently purchased a 1987 Catalina 22. We were told that this boat won't race well due to the weight. Can anyone tell me where I can find more specific information about boat specs. We were under the impression that Catalina 22's race in "one design" classes and as such their specs should be comparable across all years.

Thank you in advance for any advice y'all can provide!

Cheers!

 

[Jackdaw]

There is absolutely nothing 'one design' about the Catalina 22. Not counting rolling changes over the years, even between consecutive boats off the line, I'd expect easly 100 of potential weight difference. Between gaps in years; even more.

That being said, they race as an OD fleet and have a blast doing it. Just don;t expect them to be 'identical'.

 

[shariwynd]

Thanks for the quick response. We are slowly coming to realize the differences. That said, you are correct... we ARE having a blast racing... and looking into ways to decrease our boat's weight; however, we also plan to do weekend cruises, so we will move stuff on as we require!

 

[CaptDon01]

Your 1987 model was the second generation design of the C-22, and usually are the heaviest boats from some findings several years ago where they weighed the boats at the C-22 Nationals. Yes, there was sometimes HUGE weight differences in boats,partly due to the different keels offered. Our C-22 MK-II with a wind keel in her normal cruising mode with the outboard attached, fuel, and all our junk came in at 3,540 Lbs. I recently also purchased a swing keeled model like yours, so I'll be interested in finding out how much she weighs in comparison to our MK-II. The National C-22 web site I believe had the weight findings that were taken several years ago. One nice thing with the new Catalina-22 Sport is that the weights tollerance's are very tight between boats, and they are only available in a swing keel version, which helps in the "one design" concept.

Don

 

[c22sailor]

There are also variations like poptop model or not, kick up or fixed blade rudder, oval vs. flat sided mast extrusion, etc. which makes a difference in weight.

 

[shariwynd]

Thanks c22sailor! We have a pop top, fixed blade composite rudder, and a swing keel. We have pulled all of the cushions out and keep only what we are require to have on board (horn, life vests, throwable flotation device, flares, anchor, and manual bilge). We expect to be buying new class sails within a year, which should help. I noticed that most of the competitive fleet has sail numbers less than 10,000 (i.e. they are much older hulls). So we don't think we'll be winning any classes soon, but we are resolved to getting out there and just having fun.

 

[CaptDon01]

"composite rudder" Rudder-Craft?

 

[Gene Neill]

I weighed our '88 on her trailer at a truck stop recently, in the same condition you just mentioned: boat, motor, trailer, sails, anchors, gas, water, etc., came in at just under 4000 lbs.

I don't know the weight of my trailer ... maybe 1000 pounds?

 

[c22sailor]

I currently own and club race Hull #116. I haven't weighed this boat, but one of my previous boats was a 1973 and only weighed just under 2,200 lbs. with the outboard. One quick way to tell is to look at the transom while the boat is in the water. If your transom is completely out of the water, or just the very bottom touching a little, it is a good sign of a lighter weight boat. One thing I have learned is the boat sails much better with the transom out of the water; so weight forward when going downwind is critical for me to keep the transom from dragging.