• Sailing is all about the Weather.

    Big into the exploration of Atlantic Hurricanes since Katrina came uninvited into his world, James (Jim) Gurley (JamesG161) has followed every Tropical Storm birthed in Atlantic, Gulf and Caribbean waters since. Being a boater, he knows that we often need more time to prepare than we get from the TV weather folk. Jim relies on the science of storm development to share early warning info with friends and fellow boaters.

    Early in 2018, Jim and John Shepard, (JSSailem) started to chat about the weather data available. John asked Jim to help forecast Pacific NW storms, and this morphed into discussions on weather forecasting.

    For John, sailing in the PNW is sometimes hit and miss. One day is ugly, then a string of beautiful days but no wind, followed by a series of blue-sky days and 12 knot breezes. Being ready for those great sailing days means you need to look to the Pacific Ocean and what is brewing. John has been into Pacific NW Weather since the 1970’s when his first PNW November storm hit bringing more than 40 days and 40 nights of continual rain.

    Together we want to share information, new APPs, safety, and thoughts about letting the weather help you. Identify some of the resources for sailors and help prepare you for your next sailboat outing.

    It is far better to go out on the water knowing what to expect in weather terms, than to be out on the water and see dark ominous clouds suddenly appear, unprepared.

Red sky at morning ...

Jun 1, 2015
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Macgregor 26d Trailer Estates, Fl
I’ve always heard the phrase “red sky at morning sailor take warning, red sky at night, sailor’s delight”

This seems to be true, but I can’t figure out why. Logically it seems to me it would be true in some parts of the world but not others.

Can anyone shed any light on this old saying?
 
Jun 14, 2010
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Seafarer 29 Oologah, OK
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_sky_at_morning:
"[...] It is based on the reddish glow of the morning or evening sky, caused by haze or clouds related to storms in the region.[2][3][5] If the morning skies are red, it is because clear skies over the horizon to the east permit the sun to light the undersides of moisture-bearing clouds. The saying assumes that more such clouds are coming in from the west. Conversely, in order to see red clouds in the evening, sunlight must have a clear path from the west, so therefore the prevailing westerly wind must be bringing clear skies.
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Because of different prevailing wind patterns around the globe, the traditional rhyme is generally not correct at lower latitudes of both hemispheres, where prevailing winds are from east to west. The rhyme is generally correct at mid-latitudes where, due to the rotation of the Earth, prevailing winds travel west to east."
So, yeah, it is more true some places than others, but more people live and/or navigate where it's more often true.
 
Nov 8, 2007
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Hunter 27_75-84 Sandusky Harbor Marina, Ohio
My understanding is that this saying applies in the east winds of the trades. The red skies indicate weather. If you see them in the morning, weather is coming at you, at night weather is going away, and all is well.
 
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Oct 10, 2009
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Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
What David says. Weather tends to come from the west, so sun rising in the east reflects against a front moving in from the west...and portends heavy weather. The opposite is true at sunset, as the sun reflects on heavy weather clearing out to the east.