Recommended anchor for Hunter 50

Oct 28, 2021
19
Hunter 50 AC Naples
Hello.

I'm 1-year owner of an Hunter 50 AC 2007 and in preparation to the next cruising season I'm revieing the anchoring system. Today I've 75mt of 10mm chain and a 20kg Spade anchor which I think is undersized.

Considering Spade or Rocna, what would be an ideal weight / size for the anchor?

Thanks and warmest regards

G
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,143
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
Spade suggests the following on their chart.
Looks like your 20KG is the "scheduled size" for a 50ft boat. Size selection kind of depends on how you plan to use the boat. If you are going to be at anchor and exposed to gail force winds/sea state, then I would get at the least the next size up at 25kg. The 2 sizes up is more than enough at 30kg. Recognize the more you put on the bow the more the boat becomes bow heavy.

An alternative answer might be to get a second anchor at 20 or 25kg and when the winds blow to use a two anchor system. Having plenty of chain at 75m with additional 75 to 100m of 3/4 nylon rode backing it up should give adequate scope in all types of conditions.
 
Apr 2, 2021
416
Hunter 38 On the move
Hello.

I'm 1-year owner of an Hunter 50 AC 2007 and in preparation to the next cruising season I'm revieing the anchoring system. Today I've 75mt of 10mm chain and a 20kg Spade anchor which I think is undersized.

Considering Spade or Rocna, what would be an ideal weight / size for the anchor?

Thanks and warmest regards

G
Pick up a copy of Hines' book on anchoring. Great stuff in there including tables for anchor sizes, chain size, strength, weight and so on.

I personally ended up with an original rocna 25kg on 200' 5/16" G43 and 50' 8-plait for the primary and 50' G43 and 200' 8-plait for my 16lb fortress. You'll have to step up ofc but I really got a lot out the book beyond just sizing tables. Explanations of trade offs and anchoring "systems" vs individual components is valuable.
 

jssailem

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Oct 22, 2014
23,143
CAL 35 Cruiser #21 moored EVERETT WA
There is a great video site on YouTube that looks at anchors with a lot of detail. Testing them and showing what happens to them under water in different sea bottoms.
 
Jun 4, 2004
1,087
Mainship Piliot 34 Punta Gorda
At least 25kg. I have the 55# Rocna on my 41 with all 3/8" G 43 chain. Of course the chaiin needs to match your gypsy.
 
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Dec 15, 2019
159
Hunter 49 San Diego
We have the 73 pound Rocna with 250 feet of 3/8 chain. We started out with the Lewmar Delta anchor. It did not work well in mud. We switched to the Fortress. That held solid, but was hard to set. Now we have had good success with the Rocna. It sets easily and holds well in mud and sand. We went with the oversized 73 pounder just to be safe. It fits the anchor roller, pulls up onto the platform easily and looks about the right size of the boat.
 
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Mar 21, 2021
4
Hunter 50 CC San Francisco
We are Carib cruisers (now in Grenada) and have used a 65# Mantus with 275 feet of 5/16 G43 chain on our 2010 50CC for the last couple of years. I try to dive on the anchor whenever possible and have been really pleased to see how quickly it sets (usually within 10 feet in sand) and then resets when there's a wind direction change. We're regularly having to deal with 30 knot & higher wind conditions...the anchor has never moved. We chose the Mantus based on prior positive results with another boat (smaller). The size chosen was then based on what would fit reasonably in the anchor roller...the extra weight of another size higher in anchor is largely immaterial compared to the weight of the chain we carry but the larger anchor with larger dimensions should definitely hold better.
 
Jan 4, 2019
58
Hunter 50 Halifax & Martinique
On our Hunter 50 the main anchor is a 33kg Rocna with 12mm chain. We stay in the Caribbean and I never worry about the anchor once its properly set.
 
Feb 15, 2008
219
Hunter 49 Sydney
I have Hunter 49, cruising ground is Asia and Pacific, been doing it 14 odd years. You want a Manson Supreme 80lb 36kg anchor. When I bought the first one, it was the only one certified by Lloyds. This may not be the case to day. I'm using 10mm chain and have personally had a chain the (8mm chain supplied) break and also put a few different chains through a break test. There are many schools of thought regarding anchoring, Anchors, chains etc. For ANY hunter 49 or 50 they tend to sail a lot on anchor this results in the links wearing approximately halfway down what ever length of chain you typical put out. So for me on average wear is around the 15 to 20m mark. Due to this action and given Im a liveaboard doing around 10,000nm ever year my chains last 4-5 years, very short life compared to many others. So cruising ground, use, boat at anchor, and the type of ground your anchoring in make a big different to the life time and ware. The comment above about a not replacing but setting up a new anchor and make your old one a second anchor is very wise, and it suggest the same and did this myself. Most cruisers including me initially, if they had a second anchor it was somewhere safe in some whole in case they want it one day, wrong!!!, when you want it you want now. My suggestion is move your existing anchor, including a shackle ready to go to the second bow roller and add your Manson Supreme to your primary setup. Check the chain every 3-6 months pending use at the half your normal anchor depth, part every link for 3 -4m at that point and look carefully in the corners where each link touches the next. I have run on 8mm chain, everyone said I was made, but thats what it came with new. When I broke the 8mm chain, having been in about 67 knots it was then i realized it was not because it was 8mm it was due to the wear described above. It was not due to the chain being to small or undersized as everyone said, it was because I never inspected at this point and it was badly worn due to the sailing at anchor action. As a result only due to the wear I moved to 10mm chain so there is effectively more meat to ware.
Snubber size is also important, you want want the snubber to stretch not snap or be so thick it has next to no give, so I run two different sizes, one for normal conditions, ie <40knots and a larger longer one, for >40knots. I have also run ratio drag tests, and reset tests for when anchoring in tight highly populated spots or where anchoring short is needed.

You might also like to ponder The different grades and types of chains when that time comes, especially if they dont last long as in my case. After not being able to get a clear satisfactory (to me) answer on stainless chain and all the various theories, I elected to run a test. So I am at year 8 now having added an 8mm stainless shackle between 4 links. When the shackle breaks ( or if it does) the four chain links will simply take up the load, so Im not taking any great risk. As it stands now I should have moved to Stainless Chain years ago.

Hope that all helps and gives you something to ponder.