Recommendation on a New Outboard

Mar 23, 2015
259
Catalina 22 MK-II Dillon, CO
Hi All,
I may very well need to replace the outboard on my 1988 Seaward S24. Presently a 2-stroke 9.9 HP Merc. The boat has a pedestal and I eventually want to install remote engine controls there. Do you think electric start is worth the money? What do you all think is the best choice and the best bang for the buck?
Thanks for the input.
carlos
 
Jun 14, 2010
2,380
Robertson & Caine 2017 Leopard 40 CT
Do you think electric start is worth the money?
Definitely! So is electric tilt.... especially on a long shaft OB. They design the balance of the mount to match short shaft models, and the longer drive leg adds weight further out so that makes it harder to lift. (Why lean lover and struggle when you can push a button? Over the expected life of the engine it only adds a few bucks per year for the convenience. )
PS - I agree with @Charlie Jones s/v Tehani but I have also had good experiences with Tohatsu (and re-badged versions of Tohatsu sold by other makers).
 
Jan 19, 2010
12,658
Hobie 16 & Rhodes 22 Skeeter Charleston
I recently purchased a Tohatsu 6 sailpro long shaft.

LOVE IT. Starts on first pull every time.
 
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Mar 23, 2015
259
Catalina 22 MK-II Dillon, CO
Ya, I had a Yamaha on my prior boat and indeed started with 1-2 pulls every time.
I have read that pretty much all outboards are actually manufactured by the same company?
cec
 
Sep 22, 2018
1,869
Hunter 216 Kingston
If your in the analysis stage I would suggest you consider what prop choices will fit. A prop change can make quite a difference in capability.

Did you feel under or over powered with the 9.9hp 2 stroke?
 
Mar 23, 2015
259
Catalina 22 MK-II Dillon, CO
This is a new boat to me and the engine as well. I have not launched yet so don't know how effective is it. Having consistent trouble starting it, compression is low and ?? Already put significant $$ into it but don't want to spend good money after bad.
 
Sep 22, 2018
1,869
Hunter 216 Kingston
I did a little Googling and found this link
Both boats for sale have 8hp motors. Doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the “right” motor though ;)

 

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
4,956
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
There's only one reason Yamaha is the best selling outboard in the world, even if they cost slightly more. They are the most reliable, longest lasting OB made by anyone, period. Nobody will even steal my Johnson.
 

JerryA

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Oct 17, 2004
549
Tanzer 29 Jeanneau Design Sandusky Bay, Lake Erie
I really liked my Yamaha 8 4-stroke on my P23. Get their dual thrust prop.
 
Mar 23, 2015
259
Catalina 22 MK-II Dillon, CO
Thanks for all the replies and info. I finally got the engine started, but with effort. We'll see how it goes.
 
Jun 8, 2004
10,480
-na -NA Anywhere USA
Tohatsu builds the smaller engines for Tohatsu of course as well as Nissan and Mercury.

Not sure but most 8 hp are same as the 9.9 but higher hp due to carbureation.

Max hp on sailboat transoms is 10 hp.

Are you using ethanol free gas. If not switch to it as ethanol will block the carb jets
 
Mar 23, 2015
259
Catalina 22 MK-II Dillon, CO
Yup, will get a 9.9 hp if I need a new one. Non-ethanol gas for me.
thx
cec
 

CarlN

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Jan 4, 2009
603
Ketch 55 Bristol, RI
I have just replaced an 2004 Yamaha 4 cycle 25hp on a 13ft Boston Whaler with a Suzuki 25hp. In researching this I got some surprising input. The Yamaha 2 cycle were legendary for their reliability (and still are if you can buy one a 2 cycle outside the US where they are still sold). But I never liked my Yamaha 4 cycle. It was really loud and rough. And the carburetor was very, very sensitive to ethanol fuel fouling. I was always in the shop having its carburetor cleaned in an ultrasonic bath. In New England it's almost impossible to find ethanol free fuel.

That said, the Yamaha's are still really popular and their marketing is great. But I concluded that Yamaha, Suzuki, and Honda are all great engines and depending on the model, one can be better than the other. At 25hp, I concluded Suzuki has a better offering at the moment.

The other good news is that more and more outboards are fuel injected rather than carbureted. The fuel injected outboards are reportedly much less prone to ethanol problems. All the 25hp's are now fuel injected. But at the smaller HP many still have carburetors. I would try to find an outboard with fuel injection if you live in an area with ethanol fuel.

To your other question. Remote controls are a big plus. If the outboard is located in a place where it's easy to pull the cord, the electric start is less important. As others have said, be sure to find one that takes a prop pitched low for a heavy keelboat. Also the largest blade size you can get. 4 blade if possible.

To your recent problems. If the engine has ever seen ethanol fuel, consider replacing the carburetor. It may have an accumulated varnish that no regular carb cleaner will get. Clean out the tank (get it dry) and fill with fresh fuel. Replace the spark plugs. Replace the little fuel filter inside the engine. If you still have problems, replace the fuel hose from the tank. For reasons I don't understand, they often are the source of outboard starting problems.
 
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Oct 10, 2009
1,051
Catalina 27 3657 Lake Monroe
I think if it's difficult to reach the motor for starting then yes to electric start. I've only had experience with Tohatsu, but a friend of mine quite neglects his Honda and it fires up like a charm every time. And as smallish motors go, Hondas are quite reliable.
 

LloydB

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Jan 15, 2006
927
Macgregor 22 Silverton
I went to a Yamaha 9.9 four stroke with long shaft electric start and electric lift.(smallest electric start they had at the time) I had to add a new motor mount that would accept the larger motor. Also had to beef up my stern to leave the motor on while trailering to ensure no damage by the heavier motor over the former 2 stroke. Size wise overkill for my boat but just right for my rope starting arm and kinder to my ears.
 
Sep 24, 2018
3,576
Catalina 30 MKIII Chicago
I had a 4hp Tohatsu on my last boat. This Time I got a 9.9 with electric start. I love it! Electric start results in a much more enjoyable experience. It also starts up faster if it ever dies. You may have trouble tilting or raising larger engines due to weight or size in some cases