Rebuilding the Hyde Streamstay

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shadowjack

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter Slidell, LA
After 31 years of service it was time to rebuild my furling system. I found the web site that handles the rebuild kit, but the cost was out of sight. So being the do it yourself type I took the system down and disassembled the lower drum. This in itself was a bear, the bearings were completly gone and everything was corroded together. After lots of WD40 I got the thing apart. I have a size #9 unit and the terminal ends bearing replacement kit runs just under $370.00. I took what was left of the bearings to montion Ind. and had the parts matched.
Bearings INA part number 6002-2RS, 2 required
Oil seal SKF part number 6741, 2 required.
I had replace the upper terminal bearing about 20 years ago and it was still in good shape. This is the only part I had trouble finding until I used metric measurment. I found several on the net (FAG has this item for $30.00) using ID of 15mm, OD of 32 mm and a height of 12mm. Seeing that mine was still in good condition I chose not to replace it. My total cost was $27.31 for parts and $4.89 for high pressure grease form Bumper to Bumper. Next time I will not wait 30 years for a rebuild, I think once every 5 years a relube is all I'll need.

Shadowjack
 
Ed Schenck

Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
That is some really important and helpful information Bill. I have been sitting here looking at furler prices when your entry popped up. That is an amazing savings!

Is your mast down and the furler on the horizontal? I am wondering if I could do the same with the mast up. With the mid-stay, a couple of halyards tied forward, and loosening the backstay I think it would be OK to detach the lower end of the furler.

Were you able to fully examine the rod? Do you ever worry about that 30 year old rod since we do not have a forestay?
 
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shadowjack

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter Slidell, LA
Ed:
I loosened the back stay, disconnected the lower end of the furler, then went up the mast, disconnected the upper and lowered the unit. The baby stay is strong enough to hold the rig up. You could use the spinker haylard to act as a fore stay if needed. The rod seems to be in good shape and I have no fears of the thing failing. I have been thiniking of adding a forestay to the rig as well.
 
Ed Schenck

Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
How would you add a forestay? The rod is solid so it cannot go inside the furler. And where would you find a solid attachment on the mast?
 
Randy Burns

Randy Burns

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Jun 5, 2004
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Hunter 27_73-83 Harrington, Maine
Thanks - I have a #9 too. I repacked the halyard swivel this spring, but it looked like an impossible job to disassemble the the the upper and lower bearing assemblies. Could you feel the failed bearings in the lower assembly before you took it a part? I assumed you would.
A weird thing happend the second time out this year- in the halyard swivel there is big, thick snap ring. Some how it worked it's way out of the groove and over the adjacent shoulder and allowed the unit to seperate when I was unfurling. Caused a mess, however after retreiveing the halyard and putting the snap ring in place it seems OK. I didnt take it off when I repacked it, but must have unseated it when taking apart - although I think I would have noticed somthing.
I have the original manual for this and can email if anyone wants it.
Randy
 
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shadowjack

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter Slidell, LA
ED:
I have been thinking of adding a bow sprit which would give me the needed room on the bow and as far as the mast head I would add an extension to hang out over the halyard swivel. I have always wanted a bow sprit and think it would add to the looks of the boat.

Randy:
I started to have problems furling and unfuling, the lower unit was very stuck. After I took the entire unit down and put the WD40 treatment on it the drum started to turn but was very rough. My haylard swivel will not come off the rod, if I needed to replace it I would have to purchase the split unit from Rig Rite. I need to replace the two Delrin bushings but I will use it as is for as long as i an.Please email me the manual.
Thanks a lot.
 
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RBails

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Ed Schenck said:
That is some really important and helpful information Bill. I have been sitting here looking at furler prices when your entry popped up. That is an amazing savings!

Is your mast down and the furler on the horizontal? I am wondering if I could do the same with the mast up. With the mid-stay, a couple of halyards tied forward, and loosening the backstay I think it would be OK to detach the lower end of the furler.

Were you able to fully examine the rod? Do you ever worry about that 30 year old rod since we do not have a forestay?
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Guys, the rig on our boats will stay up just fine with supporting rigging. Part of the beauty af having the mast stepped on the keel.
Blaise
 
Ed Schenck

Ed Schenck

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Jun 2, 2004
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Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Geez, I think you are right Blaise. On the other hand I think that your boat has a real headstay with the furler around it. :)
 
TFrere

TFrere

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Oct 1, 2008
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Morgan 382 Mandeville, LA
I also have a Hyde but i'm not sure which one. My boat is in Mandeville so I'm pretty near you. Would it be okay for me to contact you for more information? Please email me at tgmcnulty@spectraenergy.com
 
John T1594

John T1594

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Jun 4, 2004
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Hunter 340 Forked River, NJ
Don't neglect these units. They must be lubricated regularly and should be rebuit every 10-15 years or so. I had a catastrophic failure on my boat when the lower bearing froze and the entire drum assembly unscrewed itself from the stem piece. This was when I was sailing and trying to furl the jib. Luckily the side stays kept the rig up until we could get back to port. I used the expensive option to rebuild the drum bearings and the replacement bearings were a different size (height) but went in easily and functioned well.
 
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Captain-jerry

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Jul 24, 2010
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Morgan 41 Out Islander Ketch Port Charlotte
Streamstay manual

Randy Burns said:
Thanks - I have a #9 too. I repacked the halyard swivel this spring, but it looked like an impossible job to disassemble the the the upper and lower bearing assemblies. Could you feel the failed bearings in the lower assembly before you took it a part? I assumed you would.
A weird thing happend the second time out this year- in the halyard swivel there is big, thick snap ring. Some how it worked it's way out of the groove and over the adjacent shoulder and allowed the unit to seperate when I was unfurling. Caused a mess, however after retreiveing the halyard and putting the snap ring in place it seems OK. I didnt take it off when I repacked it, but must have unseated it when taking apart - although I think I would have noticed somthing.
I have the original manual for this and can email if anyone wants it.
Randy
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I have purchased a 41 Morgan O/I in March 2010. It is a 30 year old vessel, it was a bank
repossession and needed some TLC. I just replaced the 2 A/C units, (I am a Mermaid Dealer), and rebuilt the injectors on the Onan 7.5KW Generator, and am replacing the cushion cover zippers. www.Sailrite.com has all the necessary items. By the way, I purchased the plastic ports for the morgan at www.sailboatowners.com.
I need to rebuild the 3 roller furling bearings on the main, mizzen and jub. You mentioned that you had the manual. could you send it to me, Please? Captain-jerry@juno.com
 
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