Rebeding hatch, rot, wood screws

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KandD

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Jan 19, 2009
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Hunter 40 Corpus Christi
I'm rebeding a hatch, and I don't think the wood-screws would hold what they are biting into. I know I can drill it out, fill with epoxy, but will the screws cut into that when I go to install the hatch??
 
Jan 27, 2008
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ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
Epoxy is very weak for the stresses related to a wood screw. The best method with any kind of FRP is through bolting. Next best is to install an insert for a machine screw so the screw screws into the insert and the insert spreads the load over a larger surface area of the FRP. If you do go with the epoxy mix it with a thickening agent that will give it some strength like microfibers.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Much depends on the thickness of the material that the screws penetrate. If you have less than an inch of thickness and a substantial load to support then you are best to through bolt if you are just fastening a clock face for the hall clock then wood screws a half inch long are fine.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Morgan 415 Out Island Rogersville, AL
If the epoxy is thick enough and has some reinforcement, drill and tap it, preferably with a fine thread tap. Marine Tex is great for this application. however, it would be cheaper to mix up your own filler using milled fiber.
 

KandD

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Jan 19, 2009
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Hunter 40 Corpus Christi
I'm attaching a hatch, so I imagine the screws are supplementary to the 4000 I'll use to bed it. I can't through-bolt, the overhead liner is in the way.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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C30 Event Horizon Port Aransas
I'm attaching a hatch, so I imagine the screws are supplementary to the 4000 I'll use to bed it. I can't through-bolt, the overhead liner is in the way.
Is there any thing else through bolted where there is headliner? If so how is it done there? Instead of painting my ceiling, I was thinking of installing a headliner. I was kind of concerned about what to do, (or how it's done) where there are through bolts.

I was at the boat for the last 4 or 5 days. I bedded 2 ports and all the hardware in the forward hatch and one stanchion base with butyl tape (that I got from MaineSail). I will seal everything I can with butyl tape from now on.

BTW the hinges on the forward hatch(on the side attached to the boat) were not through bolted. They were wood screws into FRP. I counter sunk the holes a bit and used butyl on those as well. They felt like they had a descent bite to them as I tightened them.
 
Jan 10, 2009
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PDQ 32 Deale, MD
I'm attaching a hatch, so I imagine the screws are supplementary to the 4000 I'll use to bed it. I can't through-bolt, the overhead liner is in the way.
I would stongly suggest butyl rubber. I say this because I replaced a hatch bedded with butly a few weeks ago (broken lense) and it was a 10 minute job. Zero water leakage after 13 years. Easy to pry up, using a kitchen knife and a drywall knife. Easy to prep, easy to re-bed.

No, I don't use butyl for everything, like some fanatic. I use 4200 and 5200 other places. But on large items that are going to have to come off again some day (hatches, winches, cam-cleats, staunchians) it's geat stuff and easy to work with.

FWIW, the hatch was mounted with wood screws. Seemed like enough to me, but it was a deck hatch. I figure the screws were, collectivly, stronger than the latch, so through bolts would add nothing meaningfull.
 
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