Real photo or a rendering?

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
5,072
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
Very true. I think it's very good looking and well done with two notable exceptions:
1) The traveler across the companionway. On a sport-oriented boat. Huh.
2) Non-swept spreaders on a fractional boat. A mind-boggling choice in these modern times. Without running backstays it makes for a huge unbend-able mast section, and absolutely huge positively cannot fail backstay system.


Even with the sporty looks, I figure they still expect the new owner to drive it like an Island Packet.
The thing that spooks me about this boat is the huge, unprotected cockpit. Of course, my viewpoint as an ocean sailor probably colors things as most others' don't.
 
Apr 19, 2012
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O'Day Daysailor 17 Nevis MN
2) Non-swept spreaders on a fractional boat. A mind-boggling choice in these modern times. Without running backstays it makes for a huge unbend-able mast section, and absolutely huge positively cannot fail backstay system..
That brings up an interesting question. Is it really a fractional rig or is it a masthead rig with a solent stay?
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
That brings up an interesting question. Is it really a fractional rig or is it a masthead rig with a solent stay?
Well done that's actually a VERY interesting question!

I had always assumed that the gennaker was on a soft stay that could be lowered. That would make the inner stay (at the chainplate) structural and the boat fractional.

But if the gennaker stay is is structural... then.... solent rig! Kinda!

Things to ponder:
1) There is no bob-stay on the sprit to support the HUGE loads that would be on the gennaker is that was structural.
2) That means that that sail never comes down, and you drive around it with wrapped like that in front of your jib all the time.
 
Apr 19, 2012
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O'Day Daysailor 17 Nevis MN
1) There is no bob-stay on the sprit to support the HUGE loads that would be on the gennaker is that was structural.
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Considering it's most likely photo shopped a bob-stay could easily have been overlooked. It also looks like the shrouds go to the top which would indicate a masthead rig. You just never know after a graphic artist gets ahold of a photo.
 

weinie

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Sep 6, 2010
1,297
Jeanneau 349 port washington, ny
http://www.bluejacketyachts.com/blue-jacket-40.html

The large sailplan is a further refinement of the Solent style rig featuring standard double head sails with a working jib and a lightweight 150% reacher that mounts on the integral bow prod, both furled with Harken® systems. The working jib is fitted with a carbon fiber Hoyt Boom® that is self-tending and improves performance with its close sheeting and self-vanging feature while the large reacher boosts performance in light air or when off the wind
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
1,278
C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
This looks like a computer generated 3D model. Shadows of the model (sailboat) are correct. The only way that can be done wrong is if there were multiple lights generating shadows which is possible but highly unlikely. The shadows would appear really wrong if that were the case. I use to do this type of modeling for corporate interior design projects. The life lines appear to have a diameter which is much too large compared to the stanchions. The Quantum logo is reversed on the main and headsail. And the location of the sailmakers logo keeps changing. That's a dead giveaway that this isn't a photo.
 
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Apr 19, 2012
1,043
O'Day Daysailor 17 Nevis MN
http://www.bluejacketyachts.com/blue-jacket-40.html

The large sailplan is a further refinement of the Solent style rig featuring standard double head sails with a working jib and a lightweight 150% reacher that mounts on the integral bow prod, both furled with Harken® systems. The working jib is fitted with a carbon fiber Hoyt Boom® that is self-tending and improves performance with its close sheeting and self-vanging feature while the large reacher boosts performance in light air or when off the wind
That answers the question Weinie. Thanks for clearing it up.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Considering it's most likely photo shopped a bob-stay could easily have been overlooked. It also looks like the shrouds go to the top which would indicate a masthead rig. You just never know after a graphic artist gets ahold of a photo.
No the stays go to the hounds at the level of the inner stay, like a fractional.
And pics of the real boat show no bobstay. I would have bet thousands on that. Cruise HATE bobstays unless you can launch your anchor off the end.

I did see that Tim Jacket called it a modified solent. Whatever that means! To me the real question is if the the gennaker stay is structural.
 
Feb 2, 2010
373
Island Packet 37 Hull #2 Harpswell Me
Fairly sure its In Boom furling, certainly on the lower photo, hence no reefing lines.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Fairly sure its In Boom furling, certainly on the lower photo, hence no reefing lines.
No. It has a park avenue or 'pocket boom'. Its designed to hold the main on top of the boom in that pocket. Per the spec it uses regular full-roach main with battcars. You can see the lazy-jack lines in that same picture. Its supposed to be a performance boat. No-one with a performance mindset would use a rolled mainsail. Too many compromises.
 

DSqr

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Feb 27, 2010
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Hunter 376 Racine, WI
If you want to see the real thing, it's sitting inside at Larsen's in Waukegan, IL. They launched her a year or so ago and now it's for sale again.
 
May 27, 2015
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Beneteau Oceanis 41 Havre de Grace MD
Also one at Tidewater Marina in Havre de Grace MD.
 

Kermit

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Jul 31, 2010
5,722
AquaCat 12.5 17342 Wateree Lake, SC
Y'all are way over-thinking this. The photograph is real. Look at the skipper. It's Donald Trump sailing with everyone who understands his politics.
 
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Aug 3, 2012
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Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Yeah, if you closely trail the sheets, they don't match the sails and shadows. The windward jib sheet is trailing toward the deck at the bow, yet it appears on the leech of the sail if you look closely. This myth is DEBUNKED!