Real photo or a rendering?

Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
I was up o the BlueJacket 40 web site and saw this great photo of the the boat in a nice breeze. At first I assumed it was a real picture, but now I have my doubts? Watcha all think?

 

SFS

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Aug 18, 2015
2,092
Currently Boatless Okinawa
I think the shadows are wrong for a photo. The shadow of the mast is perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the boat, but the sun seems to be more off the port bow. If the sun is off the port bow, there is too much shine on the water just to the helmsman's right, close aboard. The highlights and sparkles in the bow wave splash aren't consistent with that sun position either, particularly just abeam that second portlight from the bow.
Also, what's up with that starboard sheet? It looks taut between the turning block on the rail and the winch, but forward of there really saggy for the apparent load, but I can't trace the lines well. Do they even match up?
 

Bosman

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Oct 24, 2010
346
Solina 27 Wabamun, Alberta
I think that while sea itself is real, the boat looks too perfect:
- sails are high-tech, but there are no tell-tales or draft stripes
- sails look unnatural
- the deck is perfectly dry and too clean
- the cabin windows #1 and #5 (counting from left) show some reflections, yet the sun is shining from the opposite side
- clew rings on the main and the jib are not see-through?
In my opinion the photo is modified.
 
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Jul 14, 2015
840
Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
There is no wave action off bow cutting through the water
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
The sails (big surprise) are what got me first. They look totally unnatural in shape. And then the lack of tell-tails etc, the funky shadow of the windward gennaker sheet add to it. Oh, and it looks like the jib is not attached (or drawn onto) the forestay.

And the boat has NO wake. It has a skid mark to leeward like it was lying ahull, but at that speed it should have a wake behind it.

I'd believe the boat boat was a photo, but dropped into the sea-shot with drawn-on sails.
 
May 25, 2004
446
Catalina 400 mkII Harbor
yachtworld has the same photo but all the mast, dont see why it wouldnt be real
blue water 40.jpg
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,534
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
I think it's real. He could be changing course, hence the perceived slipping
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
The main has absolutely no twist in it. Nor does the jib.
The main has no reef points.
The jib has no UV tape
The tack of the jib would NEVER be that close to the furler. Its tied to the drum and will fall to leeward.
The head of the jib goes all the way to the mast, difficult for a rolling sail and top swivel.
In the full shot the mast looks too straight-up-and-down for the heel of the boat. That makes the top spreader look wonkey as well.
 
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weinie

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Sep 6, 2010
1,297
Jeanneau 349 port washington, ny
Jib is not even attached to forestay.
Bluejacket boat?
Maybe it was a promo type shot before hull #1 was even completed.

FWIW, the Jeanneau website has pictures of the 349 prototype showing hardware that is completely different or has been relocated in the production models.
 
Jul 14, 2015
840
Catalina 30 Stillhouse Hollow Marina
Roller furler with no furling channel for the jib to attach to.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Maybe it was a promo type shot before hull #1 was even completed.
It was. They are shots that Doyle sails helped generate for the first BJ40 brochure. In this brochure were the boat's 'preliminary' specs. They call them preliminary because they don't what the boat will weigh untill they build one! All of the images are composites. The other big one for the piece is also on the web as an image.. its file names is ipy-bj-01-photocomposition.jpg
 
May 17, 2004
6,152
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Also something seems strange about the shadows in the water at the transom, like they don't line up properly or something, and I don't see a shadow of the helmsman where I'd expect it on the gunwale.
 

capta

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Jun 4, 2009
5,072
Pearson 530 Admiralty Bay, Bequia SVG
I vote for desktop publishing by someone who knows nothing about sailing boats.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
This composition looks better, but notice the myriad of missing details from the lower (real) image. Anyone for a gooseneck?? And I think EDIT: Quantum must not like to draw reefing points on their sails.



 
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kito

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Sep 13, 2012
2,011
1979 Hunter Cherubini 30 Clemmons
There is a Youtube video of the Blue Jacket 40 published in 2012 and has this same picture. The boat was available in the Spring of 2013. Either way, it sure is a purrrrdy boat!
 
Feb 2, 2010
373
Island Packet 37 Hull #2 Harpswell Me
I thought the sails were by Quantum, thats who were recently the prime source for IP and i would guess the same for BJ. Maybe its promotional shots for the sail manufacturer rather than the boat.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Either way, it sure is a purrrrdy boat!
Very true. I think it's very good looking and well done with two notable exceptions:
1) The traveler across the companionway. On a sport-oriented boat. Huh.
2) Non-swept spreaders on a fractional boat. A mind-boggling choice in these modern times. Without running backstays it makes for a huge unbend-able mast section, and absolutely huge positively cannot fail backstay system.


Even with the sporty looks, I figure they still expect the new owner to drive it like an Island Packet.
 
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Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
I thought the sails were by Quantum, thats who were recently the prime source for IP and i would guess the same for BJ. Maybe its promotional shots for the sail manufacturer rather than the boat.
Right on the first count, probably so on the second!. I was just talking to a Dolye rep and had that on my mind.