Re-power from Yanmar to Volvo

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Rick Webb

Are There Remanufacturers Out There?

A remanufactured long block seems to make the most sense if they are available. Maybe small marine deisels are too much of a niche market but would be worth looking into.
 
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Capt J

Back Pressure

I have to pipe in again, stupid me, but one of the posts was correct in that, that small of engine does not need a 3" exhaust. I called our engine engineering department ( work for the largest medium duty diesel engine mfg in world ) and we do not use that size exhaust on engines with four times the cubic inch displacement as you are looking at. You may need to adapt down to complete the install but it will work with a 2" outlet. As a second footnote, Yanmar is the diesel engine John Deere uses in all of it's small diesel applications and many of the parts are interchangeable. There are several avenues that you can explore but the cost your are being quoted for the rebuild seem a bit pricy. You might check with a Deere dealer and see what they say. As we all know if it says marine it is pricy. Sorry about your engine and good luck in the re-powering. I know that our dealers charge less than that for a factory refresh and they are warranteed for a year. Too bad you cannot use one of our but they are too big.
 
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Chris

Franklin

Sorry about your disaster. Presumably you are not up to rebuilding it yourself since you did not mention it. Have you tried asking a local machine shop? Their price is their price, doesn't matter if it's marine or a lawn tractor or a Mercedes or a Kia...so much per journal grind, so much per set of bearings, so much per cylinder rebore, so much per piston and ring set, etc. Check 'em out. Very best of luck!
 
Jun 7, 2004
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Schock 35 Seattle
Remanufactured

Yanmars are available from this site. Why not call them and get a price. http://www.dieselenginetrader.com/engines.cfm?Engine=Yanmar&ID=81
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
Thanks all

Official answer from Yanmar: I had talked to a different dealer and he got with Yanmar and this is what they said. "Officially: you need a 3". Unofficially: 2" will work with 12' of pipe and a water muffler up to 55 hp." They also said that going with a 2" may void the warrenty depending on who was making the decision. Volvo: Because Volvo uses glow plugs, that elimiated them. So I figured a brand new Yanmar, even without a warrenty, is better then a rebuilt yanmar with only a 90 day warrenty. Decision made: So, this morning I went down to the repair shop and put in an order for a new 40 hp yanmar. Here is the kicker: The repair shop, who deals Yanmars and Volvos, called Volvo and they said if it was there filter that blew on a volvo engine, they would replace the engine. Evidently Yanmar doesn't feel the same because I would think he would have called them too. In anycase, I don't have the filter anymore as proof so that's all a mute point anyway. Damn! rebuilding it myself... I used to be a diesel mechanic in the army a good 15 years ago but never rebuilt one. I once rebuilt a gas engine and when finished it had a knock that I couldn't find the cause so I ordered a remanufactured engine and vowed never to try again (I spent months trying to find that knock and fix it).
 
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Waffle

Franky, why don't you like glow plugs

Oh, your in Texas. I gues you don't need them? I like having glow plugs in New York (I got a Unverisal). I had to crank my Yanmar engine until it got warm enough to start in cold weather. I found out that can flood the mixing bowl and let water back up into the engine if the check value does work correctly. Good luck with the new engine. Hope it comes soon. Waffle
 
Dec 2, 2003
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Franklin, so sorry.

I read all the posts and was going to tell you about my 3GM30F blowing an oil line in Trinidad. But you ordered an new engine. Never mind. What's that? You want to hear the story anyway? OK. ;) My engine was all rusty from the Antigua flood. The boat was stored on the hard during the off season in Trinidad. A friend came down and helped with recommissioning until my wife could get off work. We launched. He was aboard the boat. I was in the dingy. He headed out to the anchorage and slowed and stopped. He said the engine quit. I climbed aboard and dropped the hook. There was no oil on the dipstick. He said the alarm was going off but he didn't know what it meant so he kept going! Grrrr. The 'drip-pan' was a mess. I added oil. We started it. It started right up but oil was pouring out of the side of the engine. A hidden oil line next to the starter had rusted through. My regular fogging with Boeshield couldn't reach it even if I knew it was there. So we pulled the line. What a bitch in the tropics. We went to the boat yard shop to get it repaired. They said they couldn't. I looked in the phone book for dealers. There were FOUR Yanmar dealers in Trinidad. I called the first one. I told him what I needed. He said he had one and would deliver it to the boat yard for free. He was at the bar with the line before we finished our first beer. Then we bought him a beer. I paid him with my Visa debit $240 TT. That's $40.00 U.S. Still have the receipt in my wallet. We had the engine puring in an hour. When I rebuilt the engine I found that the third main bearing had been stripped of its babbitt. But the engine worked perfectly for the next three years and home across the Caribbean. The bearing is kept in the chart table. And the crankshaft was PERFECT. And I rebuilt it myself at one third the cost of a new one. Next time I'll replace. Did you try to start it after it quit? I think your 'mechanic' is handing you a line. Want to hear my exhaust elbow story? What's that? :)
 
Jul 20, 2005
2,422
Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
Glow Plugs

The problems in the archives about glow plugs are just the tip of the ice burg with them. Glow plugs have a tendency to get smoot on them and not want to come out. They also have a tendency to mushroom and then you need to break them to get them out, then take the head off to get the broken piece. I sure don't want to have to take my head off while at sea. Why do I know this? Because I had to do this at least 5 times a year in the army. Now maybe the glow plugs that Volvo uses are of better quality but all it takes is a little electrical problem and now you have metal inside your engine. I would rather use a hair dryer to warm the air intake and the fuel in those rare cases when I find myself in the cold. I don't like the cold when on a boat. Anything below 60 is too cold.
 
Jul 20, 2005
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Whitby 55 Kemah, Tx
yep....I tried it.

"Did you try to start it after it quit?" Yep. After being towed to the dock, I put the oil back in the engine and ran it because I had no idea where the leak was. It didn't start that easy but once it did, oil was shooting out at about a half a quart a second. "I think your 'mechanic' is handing you a line." Nope. I knew it needed a rebuilt. It would only get to 2400 rpms, wouldn't idle at all, ran very loud and had a squeeling sound at about 1600 rpms. I just didn't think the crank, pistons and rods where all gone...was thinking just the bearings.
 
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Waffle

Glow plugs can be a pain

I hated to change them on my 1980 VW Rabbit. No clearance to get to the buggers when they blow out. I would have when with the Yanmar too!
 
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