Raymarine Autopilot

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Jan 22, 2008
25
Hunter 45CC Lancaster VA
I have a 2006 Hunter 45CC and the Raymarine Autopilot works intermittently. It will work for a while and then I hear the motor spin until I get a "Drivestop" error. This occurs under motor or sail, and in very light conditions.

Has anyone had a similar experience, and what was the resolution. The dealer/boatyard says they need to check it with the boat in the water.

Thanks.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
John:

Have you tried emailing RayMarine? They are usually good at replying to these types of inquires.
 
Jan 22, 2008
25
Hunter 45CC Lancaster VA
I have not tried to email RayMarine. I will do that. The technician at the boatyard has not offered any help.

Thanks
 

DanG

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Jun 29, 2009
14
Tartan 33R Mexico
What is the model of the autopilot. When you "hear the motor spin", is it moving the rudder?

First, check all the electrical connections, especially to the compass and rudder reference.
 
Apr 22, 2001
497
Hunter 420 Norfolk, VA
I have a 2006 Hunter 45CC and the Raymarine Autopilot works intermittently. It will work for a while and then I hear the motor spin until I get a "Drivestop" error. This occurs under motor or sail, and in very light conditions.

Has anyone had a similar experience, and what was the resolution. The dealer/boatyard says they need to check it with the boat in the water.

Thanks.
I'm not sure how the autopilots on 45's are set up, but .... if it's like the arrangement on my 420, ... ie,
Is your drive motor located directly under the pedestal ?.. and does it drive a chain from the drive motor sprocket up to a (second) sprocket at the wheel??
If so, your problem may be that the bolts holding the drive motor to it's support bracket have loosened, allowing the motor to move, causing the chain to fail to properly engage the drive motor sprocket.
 
Jan 22, 2008
25
Hunter 45CC Lancaster VA
I cannot remember the model of the autopilot. I am not near the boat right now. It interfaces with the C-Series GPS/Radar system. When the motor spins, it does not engage the rudder. It sounds like it spins freely. And, there is no tension on the wheel while it is spinning. Occasionally, if I try to turn the wheel, the autopilot will engage and take over steering.
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,108
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Is it a hydraulic unit?? s the pump running (Motor spinning) and not making pressure..?? Low hydraulic fluid level?
 
Jan 22, 2008
25
Hunter 45CC Lancaster VA
Buck, it sounds like you may be on to something. I need to do some more exploring to find the drive motor. If there is a chain to the wheel, it is covered by the pedestal housing.

Thanks
 
Apr 22, 2001
497
Hunter 420 Norfolk, VA
Buck, it sounds like you may be on to something. I need to do some more exploring to find the drive motor. If there is a chain to the wheel, it is covered by the pedestal housing.

Thanks
Yes, the chain is inside the pedestal housing. If your steering wheel turns when the autopilot is engaged, (as you imply from your earlier post), then we almost certainly have the same type of autopilot installation. Your autopilot drive motor should be located directly under your pedestal... mine is in my generator compartment which is under the pedestal/cockpit; (and above the engine).
You will probably find 2 large bolts holding the drive motor to it's support bracket... and that the motor has moved up just enough that the chain only barely engages the drive sprocket.
If this is the case you will need to use a large screw driver or small "tire iron" to lever the drive motor back down and hold it while you re-tighten the bolts...
However, I would recommend that you remove the bolts and put lock-tight on them before re-tightening or (as I found out more than once) they will work loose again.
Hope this helps.

Buck
 
Dec 2, 2003
1,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
Rotary Drive Key Fallen Out?

Sounds like a rotary drive and the key which connects between the drive output shaft and the small chain sprocket has fallen out.
This happened to me one fine day when I was en route from The Solent to Holland.
I made a new steel key which had a projection on one end which the Raymarine key does not. This sits between the drive casing and the sprocket side so the key cannot become dislodged should the grub screw come loose.

Sketch attached should you need it.
 

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Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
John:

I like Donalex's idea. I assume you have a rotary drive. There is a key-way in the steering shaft. This is where the sprocket attach. There is also a key-way or set screw on the drive motor sprocket. I would start with trying to disconnect the drive power and see if you can move either sprocket by hand.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
John:

I think you will find that the sprockets are at the opposite ends of the wheel shaft. I just looked at the installation instructions and the rotary drive has a keyway & a set (grub) screw. This is the small sprocket.

The larger sprocket is on the wheel shaft and has a similar setup. You can check out the drawing and see what size key material you may need.

We have a friend that did a delivery from SF Bay to Hi. They lost the key in the drive shaft about 500+ miles off the coast of Monterey. They had to sail the entire distance after it let loose. They were able to run the engine to charge the batteries, but no prop action.
 
Apr 22, 2001
497
Hunter 420 Norfolk, VA
John:

I think you will find that the sprockets are at the opposite ends of the wheel shaft. I just looked at the installation instructions and the rotary drive has a keyway & a set (grub) screw. This is the small sprocket.

The larger sprocket is on the wheel shaft and has a similar setup. You can check out the drawing and see what size key material you may need.

We have a friend that did a delivery from SF Bay to Hi. They lost the key in the drive shaft about 500+ miles off the coast of Monterey. They had to sail the entire distance after it let loose. They were able to run the engine to charge the batteries, but no prop action.

Of course, we aren't able to look at the boat, and I may be completely wrong, but
If the sprockets are held by keys or set screws, and a key was lost or a set screw backed out, then the sprocket should spin freely and there should be no autopilot engagement at all, but John states ...
"Occasionally, if I try to turn the wheel, the autopilot will engage and take over steering. ".
Occasional engagement wouldn't occur if either sprocket spins freely.
 

timvg

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May 10, 2004
276
Hunter 40.5 Long Beach, CA
We have a RayMarine 6001 autopilot that we installed in around 2005. One day we found that the autopilot would not engage and we got the "drivestop" error. We eventually sent our rotaty drive back to RayMarine and they found that the clutch had broken. Not sure why, because we had not had the boat in heavy weather since installing the autopilot.

I believe it was around a $600 repair.
 
Jan 22, 2008
25
Hunter 45CC Lancaster VA
Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread.

I did a little investigating this weekend. I have a Raymarine ST6001 SmartPilot Control Head that appears to control a Lewmar electric motor at the base of the pedestal column, above the cockpit sole. The steering rod has an approximately 6" fixed gear/sprocket that appears to connect mechanically to a gear at the base of the Lewmar electric motor. The problem is that there is no easy way to see where the two mate. The electric motor is spinning freely without turning the gear/sprocket on the steering rod. So, if there is a clutch on the electric motor, I suspect that it is the problem. If the gear on the electric motor is attached with a compression screw or key of some sort, that must be the problem.

Again, this was factory installed (as far as I know) on a 2006 Hunter 45CC. Comments?
 
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