Raymarine AIS 350

Mar 11, 2015
357
Hunter 33.5 Tacoma, WA

Sumner

.
Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
Hmm I don't know about radar and 25ft plastic boats

http://gcaptain.com/washington-state-ferry-hyak-collides-with-sailboat/

Here is a long report on radar and small boats 25ft plastic boat run down by a ferry 3 dead

https://assets.digital.cabinet-office.gov.uk/media/547c7053ed915d4c10000083/OuzoReport.pdf
Thanks an interesting read...

2.6.7 Conclusion – radar detection
The yacht Ouzo (25+ feet in length) was not detected by the radars on board Pride of Bilbao due to a combination of the following:
o The small radar cross section area of the yacht;
o The poor performance of the yacht’s radar reflector;
o The sea conditions;
o The use of auto-clutter suppression combined with an absence of periodic manual adjustment of the clutter controls to search for small targets.

Sumner

=================================================

1300 miles to The Bahamas and Back in the Mac

Endeavour 37 Mods...

MacGregor 26-S Mods...

Mac Trips to Utah, Idaho, Canada, Florida, Bahamas
 
Mar 11, 2015
357
Hunter 33.5 Tacoma, WA
2.6.7 Conclusion – radar detection
The yacht Ouzo (25+ feet in length) was not detected by the radars on board Pride of Bilbao due to a combination of the following:
o The small radar cross section area of the yacht;
o The poor performance of the yacht’s radar reflector;
o The sea conditions;
o The use of auto-clutter suppression combined with an absence of periodic manual adjustment of the clutter controls to search for small targets.
I'm an ex Navy radar technician. I also have an FCC 1st class license with radar endorsement. I would have to "continually" train the radar operators "proper" operation/tuning of the scopes, even though ALL of them went to so-called radar operation school.

Yes, absolutely, a modern radar **WILL** pick up a 25 foot plastic boat if the operators knew what they are doing. The "auto-clutter suppression" is an adjustment on a radar, which eliminates random radar returns caused by waves. However, it WILL detect objects that remain constant, like a 25 foot boat that is bobbing up/down in waves.

Make no mistake... The yacht is most likely at fault by not seeing a large commercial vessel and steering away. A basic receive-only AIS system (today) should avoid this. My AIS system surprises me all the time with alarms, and I'm grateful for it.
 
Jan 4, 2010
1,037
Farr 30 San Francisco
MZ don't want to get into a p___ing match, and I agree maybe a mil-spec radar operated by highly trained operators can pick up a small plastic boat in big seas. However it seems that as a practical matter you can't rely on that. I imagine on a USN ship there is a guy who only stares at the radar, and he is changed out frequently. On a ferry there is a guy who has less training, worse equipment and more to do, and only glances at the radar from time to time. AIS B gives you another chance to be seen.