:( RANT about ill prepared solo sailor

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Sep 6, 2006
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Hunter 41 Severna Park, MD
You might want to read Neal Peterson Book

"Journey of a Hope Merchant". He solo raced around the world. I believe during his first attempt to race around the world he learn how to navigate. While he thought he was prepared it took him several tries to complete one race all time learning from his mistakes. It sounds like Ken is going through the same process.
 
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Scott

Frankin, can you not read ...

and discern anything? Ted's post pretty much hits the nail on the head! You may be right that we don't know how much preparation he actually made, but where do all the signs point? How would you say he was determined? He may have been determined to start the adventure while living in Southern California. It appears that his determination succumbed to boredom and frustration pretty rapidly. Maybe with just a little experience he would have found out before he started that for him, this adventure was a folly.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
For a study in contrasts it will be worth while to

read this womans story. This is not about a person that caught all the breaks. It is about a woman for whom determination was and is the quality that makes the difference. She is also the solo sailer closest to Ken's position today. Not the closest boat to his position. She probably won't be able to assist in his rescue but she is sailing in the same part of the ocean.
 

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
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Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
I believe it was Tristan Jones who said:

"There are four kinds of sailors in this world: "The dead, the retired, the pessimist and the novice." Which category would rate our frind Ken Burns as? And yourself? None of us are "dead" yet or we would not be meeting here like this. I also believe that we are all still sailing so hence are not "retired". That leaves only 2 categories, either: "pessimist" or "novice". The fine line between the 2 categories is attitude. However, being a pessimist does not elevate one above ending up in Ken's situation so the distinction is only about attitude. If we are not dead or retired we are probably trying new routes, new equipment and the like; expanding our boundaries. There is no way to do this without taking some risks. Being an armchair critic of those that do try to expand their boundaries is definitely not a risky venture but is certainly a popular sport for some of us.
 
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Scott

Are you sure you got that quote right, Caleb?

It doesn't make a lick of sense to me. I will agree that attitude makes a distinct difference in the inclination of an individual to finish what was started. I am not particularly critical of a person whose attitude from start to finish is one of determination, even if bad luck conspires to interrupt or end the adventure. In this case, the adventurer seemed to be full of determination prior to the start of the adventure and very rapidly seemed to become overwhelmed by factors that he was not prepared for. In other words, the attitude seemed to fail very early on. With even just a little bit of offshore experience, he might have realized that he needed to prepare mentally for the voyage before he found himself drifting off Cape Horn in need of rescue. As an armchair critic, I am learning from his experience though! ;)
 
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Dave the Kid

We all make mistakes, Barnes is making his.

I hope he survives it and we all learn a little from it. Godspeed.
 
Jun 3, 2004
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Catalina 250 Wing Keel Eugene, OR
Common thread

The common thread between this disaster and the 14 year old kid crossing the Atlantic is EGO. These people are inherently egotistical and self-focused. It is all about them. "Look at me. I'm sailing around the world and you can follow it on my web site." "No, look at my 14 year old in the boat in front of me. We're really something." Total ego.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Scott it is of the same nature asthe adage:

"There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are no old, bold pilots.
 

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
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Tartan 27' 1967 Nyack, NY
T. Jones quote

Scott, I quoted Tristan Jones who was a bit of an egotist and was not afraid of letting the truth get in the way of a good story (thanks for that Ross). The quote is verbatim (word for word) or close enough. If this quote does not make a lick of sense to you then maybe Ross' quote does. You cant be both an old and bold pilot. Jones' quote goes a little further, just more colorfully. Any sailor can end up as a dead sailor, it is just that the pessimist may have seen it coming whereas a novice might be surprised by the situation. The retired sailor saw it coming and survived and quit. Do you think that Ken Burns will end up retiring his dream or will try again with a more pessimistic attitude?
 
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Scott

That's a good question, Caleb ...

It would make a great story if the guy bounced back from this and succeeded in a later attempt after learning a great deal more about what it would take to be successful. In fact, don't you think he could earn a fortune from a book and motivational speaking engagements from just that sort of experience? Just think, the hard part (surviving his failure), hopefully, will be accomplished. Once he gets back, if he can get motivated enough to learn from this experience and put together a successful passage, he could be sitting pretty!
 
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Tom S

This is my perspective on what is happening

It relates to what John Vigor calls the "Black Box" theory. John Vigor wrote a book called "The Practical Mariner’s Book of Knowledge". In that book he puts forth a theory about seamanship, which he calls Vigor’s Black Box Theory. The Theory is that there is no such thing as luck at sea. Luck is earned by "diligent and constant acts of seamanship." Every time the chart is double-checked, the turnbuckles inspected, the chafing gear renewed, the seacocks cleaned and greased, the seaman earns a "chit" that goes into an invisible black box, which is aboard every boat. When things go wrong, and all of that seaman’s skill and preparation have been taxed completely, chits are withdrawn from the box. The skipper has no control over the withdrawal; they withdraw themselves, as they see fit. Only the seaman with a good supply of chits has the "luck" to survive, because he had the chits to spend. But he had best start to replenish his supply immediately, because they could be needed at any time, and the sea does not extend credit. Because boat-related activities include such a very broad spectrum of vessels and waters, seamanship means different things to different people. Common to all definitions of seamanship is that it is inextricably related to safety – that while a good boat, well-equipped, will certainly give its crew an advantage when things go wrong, it is the additional preparedness of the boat and the skill of its skipper and crew that allow it to come through unscathed. No matter whose wisdom you read or how seamanship is defined, there seem to be three elements that must coincide to propagate seamanship: forethought, a set of skills, and equipment. The latter is the easiest to come by and is often mistaken for seamanship. The two former consume a lifetime to develop and that is the reason that seamanship is an art. The rest of the write up on this subject can be read here. I recommend the quick read, it is well written http://www.landfallnavigation.com/seamanship.html I think the analogy is valid and Ken did not put enough chits in the "Black Box" and earned his way through a tight spot. His box was relatively empty, I think he prepared his boat, but didn't have the seamanship skills of an experienced ocean sailor. For instance what caused his boat to lose his mast and break his steering maybe a more seasoned sailor would have sailed his boat in such a way to prevent what happened to his boat (drouge, run before the seas, heave to, etc) only a seasoned skipper knows whats best for his boat in certain conditions. As for Caleb's quote from Tristan I think it might sound good and have a nice ring for a Publisher to Quote in bold on the inside cover of a book , but I don't necesarily agree with it. How would you categorize Chichester or Moitessier? When they sailed around the world I would not have called them pessimistic or novices. Just the contrary, they were seasoned sailors and optimistic in themselves and their boats to do the trip. Maybe a novice in a complete non-stop solo navigation but not a novice sailor for long ocean trips. How would you categorize Ellen MacArthur who just broke the around the world record. So I think Tristan (ever the one to stretch the truth) Jones has a nice sounding little Quote there, but it lacks a little substance.
 

CalebD

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Jun 27, 2006
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I will grant that T. Jones's writing

lacked a certain truthfulness and that the quote I posted is more eye catching than thorough. What I get from that quote is that it can get dangerous out there, so be prepared. I have read that John Vigor bit about the "black box" theory and I love it. I have read so much sailing "literature" that I forgot who came up with the "black box" scheme and I even thought it was T. Jones. Thanks Tom S, for setting me back on track to the real author of such a meaningful concept. I totally agree with it.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
TomS, Being a pessimist does not always

imply being a defeatist. It is more like following Murphy's law and remembering that Murphy was an optimist. Something is always waiting to go bad, whether on a boat or in your car or in your house. The reason firemen wash their trucks everyday is that way they go over every square inch of the vehicle and can find trouble before it sneaks up on them. Farmers walk their fences for weekend pleasure. That way they find the place where a tree took down the wire before the cows find it. Lyn Pardey in response to a question of what do you do all day when you are crossing a ocean detailed her boat keeping activities for just one day and this didn't include the work that Larry did everyday.
 
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Tom S

I guess it semantics

I like to call it "cautiously optimistic" instead of pessimism ;) I call a pessimist someone who thinks the glass is half empty. I think someone that is "cautiously optimistic" as one who sees that glass as half full, but who takes precautions and keeps a close watchful eye so not as to spill any out unnecessarily ;D I think we are violent agreement with what it takes to ensure (or lower the chances) of problems while sailing. Where you describe why a firemen wash their trucks or Farmers walk their fences is the same thing I am describing with regards to the "Black Box theory". ("Every time the chart is double-checked, the turnbuckles inspected, the chafing gear renewed, the seacocks cleaned and greased, the seaman earns a "chit" that goes into an invisible black box") Its this due dilligence which is displayed by Lin Pardey as you wrote. Its the little things that are done (by the rancher or fireman or sailor, etc) because of being taught lessons that are learned through years of 'hands on' experience or guidance of a mentor (Captain of a fire House, father of a Rancher, etc).
 
Apr 10, 2006
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Training Mission

I agree with the original post a little, I see your point. But the Navy was probally out there anyway. Think of it as a training mission for them. It will be a good deed done.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
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Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
I knew the guy was in trouble....

...when he said he had to use earplugs to keep the chafing noise from keeping him awake.
 
Dec 9, 2006
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Oday 22 Hickory, NC
This just in, they got him!

From the AP; Chilean trawler rescues U.S. sailor Associated Press SANTIAGO, Chile - An American sailor was rescued early Friday after three days adrift on a disabled yacht off the southern tip of South America, the Chilean navy said. Ken Barnes, 47, was picked up shortly before 6 a.m. EST by the Chilean trawler Polar Pesca 1, the navy's Operations Department reported in Punta Arenas, 3,200 miles south of the capital Santiago. An officer who asked not to be identified in line with the department's rules said by telephone that Barnes was in good general condition except for a small wound in his right thigh. Barnes left Long Beach, Calif., on Oct. 28, hoping to be the first solo sailor from the West Coast to circumnavigate the globe. He hit a fierce storm about a week ago that broke both the vessel's masts and its hatches, disabled the steering and soaked Barnes' supplies and food. The U.S. Coast Guard and Chilean maritime officials picked up signals from his distress beacon Tuesday afternoon, just minutes after Barnes called his girlfriend on his satellite phone to report he was in trouble. A Chilean navy search plane spotted Barnes around 5 p.m. Wednesday and dropped a life raft that missed the boat, said Barnes' longtime girlfriend, Cathy Chambers. Jack Hart
 

Dan

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Jul 26, 2006
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Hunter 420 Stamford
This Dialogue Will, and Should, Continue

I'm sure the sailing mags are furiously rewriting some of their copy for the soonest edition possible -- what happened, why it happened, what should have happened, etc. I'm sure someone will interview him to understand his situation and will do a "postmortem." Frankly, I think this thread is useful. It certainly got me to revisit my assumptions about my skills, my boat, my attitude. I hope it did so for all of us. What I take away from all of this -- and I dare anyone to challenge it's reasonableness -- is that one can't be too safe or too well prepared, and that it makes a world of sense to err in that direction. For me, passion and determination are wonderful (wish I had more of each!) but they must be constructively channeled into thoughtful attention to detail and planning.
 

Grizz

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Jan 13, 2006
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Hunter 28.5 Park Ridge, IL
Chits in the black box

Facinating diologue but for me, the gold nugget gleaned is the concept of chits deposited into a black box; now I've got to find the book of origin...
 

tweitz

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Oct 30, 2005
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Beneteau 323 East Hampton, New York
Solo sailing and the rest of us

First of all, we should all be grateful that Ken has been rescued. Secondly, none of us have the true detailed knowledge that should accompany a critique, but we all base our information on the very limited facts that are available. I stand by my earlier comments that there were a number of things that gave me pause long before the problems arose. For example, his comment that "If I had known that 75 percent of this first pacific leg would have been in winds under 15 kts. and most of that in less than 10 kts. I would have prepared a little differently" is surprising in light of much of the literature saying that the majority of ocean crossings are in light winds. On the other hand, we will all have the benefit of his own thoughts and explanation and a lot more facts, which may make us change our minds. I do applaud his courage and fortitude in putting himself out there. On a much broader note, I think if he was not fully prepared, this trip is symptomatic of a big problem in our society as a whole. Movies and television are constantly pushing the message that you can do anything if you just have the right attitude and enough courage. Attitude and courage are great -- they are necessary, BUT NOT SUFFICIENT. Knowledge, preparation and hard work are equally important and always get short shrift. Its not nearly as dramatic to show someone studying for years as it is to show him standing up bravely and saying he can accomplish this impossible goal. Unfortunately, a lot of us start to believe this claptrap. That daily routine of checking the rigging and replacing the chafing gear and everything else is not dramatic, just essential. In this case Ken did not apparently encounter any conditions that were in the least unusual or should have been unexpected, and he was not at sea nearly long enough that things should have worn out. I know my limits -- I don't have the patience to do the myriad preparation and routine tasks required to do that kind of long passage correctly, so I never get to the issue of whether I have the time or the courage or permission of the admiral (or even whether I want to). Ken overcame the last requirements, but doesn't appear to have dealt with the critically important other requirements. As Branch Rickey once said, luck is the residue of design. Thankfully Ken designed his communications well enough to be rescued. But as for the rest....
 
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