Stephan, sounds like you have the right system for your cruising grounds but the wrong system for your marina, and even IF the marina says it's OK, your neighbors aren't "smart" enough to know it is OK.
Sheesh! If I didn't care about doing the right thing, why would I start this thread? And for a guy who seems to care about the right thing, you actually don't because the sanitized discharge from the LectraSan is as right as right can be. As Stu said, it's a perception thing, a problem due people like <cough>you<cough> around who don't know what the right thing is!+1
Of course it has restrooms. But it's just so much easier to be inconsiderate of those working and recreating around you than it is to do the right thing.
Clearly you started this thread looking someone to help you justify to your dock neighbors your discharging into marina waters. Legal or not, it's not cool, as evidenced by the reaction of those around you when you got busted doing it.
I earn my living in marinas, in the water. If I was cleaning your boat or one close by when you decided to empty your head into the water (LectraSan or no), we'd have an issue. I don't come to your office and take a dump on the carpet in the middle of the room. Please extend to me the same courtesey.
Clearly your mind reading skills need some work. And I'm not going to live my life by the (over) reactions of ignorant people. I prefer to live by what is right and true. If I am not hurting the environment and only hurting delicate sensibilities of ignorant people, so be it.
Sounds like you're badly in need of an education. I suggest reading up on Peggy's writing about the LectraSan, starting with what she has written in this very thread. Next I'd look at your own hypocrisy as you surely pollute far more than any LectraSan, given how little the LectraSan pollutes. When you've educated yourself, come back and we'll talk.
Why don't you take a bucket of your LectraSan effluent home with you and pour it into your wife's next bubble bath if it's so friggin' harmless? You wouldn't do that because it disgusting, right? So I don't care if your MSD pumps out mother's milk, I don't want you dumping your toilet in my workplace. But clearly what other people want is not something you take much into consideration. So knock yourself out sport. I'm sure you're a real popular guy at the marina.
Not only do I have Peggy's book, until December of last year I owned a pumpout service. I guarantee I know more about the issue than this guy does.
Actually I was on the verge of jumping in the water right in the middle of the cloudy discharge. My reason for pumping the toilet at that time was that it had been plugged. It cleared out or I would have been in the water to poke the thru hull. Honestly, it would have made me a little squeamish, but I would have forced my head to rule over my, um, squeamishness. It wouldn't have been the first time. I realize many people are not capable of that. Sometimes the best rule of thumb when you are in the right around squeamish people is: What they don't know won't hurt them.Hold it right there, guys!
PLEEEEEASE.
I actually think you're saying the same things. Both of you care about the environment. Both of you don't want to pollute. Neither one of you wants to dump anything on someone.
Fastbottoms dives on boats for a living, and I'll bet even Stephan wouldn't want to be underneath his lectrasan when it pumps out.
Stephan, am I close?
I'm pretty sure Fstbtms has read Peggie's stuff already. See, yo already have another thing in common: you know the stuff.
So, instead of trading insults at each other, why not work together?
Wow, even I'm suggesting that!
Play nice...
Right now we're tied up in a pretty lagoon in the California Delta. Our host has his two kids, 5 & 8, with his cousin and his daughter. We have a holding tank and use it. Even with a lectrasan I wouldn't wanna "pollute" these captive waters, there's no flow through the lagoon. The houseboat here uses a "come to pappa" septic disposal boat. And I know that the output of the lectrasan is less invasive than the thousands of tons of local farming sh*t that's all around us.
So, ignorant or not, you have to come up with a plan that everybody can live with, even if what you're doing, Stephan, is actually legal or not.
Good luck.
So it's, "Screw everybody else. I'll do whatever the hell I want." Great attitude.
No don't turn it off. I was on the way to see a movie. This is way better that anything I would pay to see in the theater. Im with Matt on this one.
No it does not. "No Discharge Zone" means just that- nothing gets discharged.
Yes, by all means let's not let the adults continue their discussion. Heaven forbid that anybody gets their feathers ruffled here. Jeezus, another forum censored and sanitized by sombody's fear of upsetting a grown man.
That's what I would think but I'm in no position to advance that interpretation. That's why I asked for a qualified opinion.
"No Discharge Zones" (NDZs) are designated bodies of water where the discharge of treated and untreated sewage from vessels is prohibited."
