can anyone tell me the proper area to store my very heavy chain and ancor on my 20ft retractable keel daysailer???middle??back???front>?????i just want the boat to be balanced....
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Need to be in the middle of boat low as possible
On a crusing boat it needs to be quickly accessable. However on a day sailer you don't have that problem so the middle/center of the boat near the keel and as low as possible will improved you balance.
On a crusing boat it needs to be quickly accessable. However on a day sailer you don't have that problem so the middle/center of the boat near the keel and as low as possible will improved you balance.
What type of boat and how large is your anchor
Without knowing what type of boat you are sailing I couldn’t even guess about what sort of storage space is available. But I was wondering if you might have too large an anchor. You describe this as a small daysailor so you really don’t need much of an anchor. I guess asking what type of boat and how large is your anchor might be a good starting place. All the best, Robert Gainer
Without knowing what type of boat you are sailing I couldn’t even guess about what sort of storage space is available. But I was wondering if you might have too large an anchor. You describe this as a small daysailor so you really don’t need much of an anchor. I guess asking what type of boat and how large is your anchor might be a good starting place. All the best, Robert Gainer
I go along with Ross ...
Our 5,200 pound, 27' boat holds fine with a small danforth, less than 5' of lightweight chain and maybe 100' of nylon rode when we anchor for lunch or swimming. The proper area for storage of your heavy anchor and chain may be in the garage. Can your needs be met with a much less weighty alternative?
Our 5,200 pound, 27' boat holds fine with a small danforth, less than 5' of lightweight chain and maybe 100' of nylon rode when we anchor for lunch or swimming. The proper area for storage of your heavy anchor and chain may be in the garage. Can your needs be met with a much less weighty alternative?
I like to anchor off the stern on a small boat.
Usually there's little or no good spot to store the anchor forward. A five gallon bucket should hold your chain and line, with the bitter end through a hole in the bottom or out the top and tied to something strong. It's really easy to set the anchor in the direction you're already going. Most of the time, the breeze into the cabin is welcome, but if you want or need (big waves) to point into the wind, just tie the anchor lie to your bow line and let out a bit more scope. When it's time to get underweigh, you are at the controls as you pull in the anchor, and it drifts out behind the boat as you pull it in, instead of drifting under the boat as it does from the bow. Up to maybe a Catalina 27, this works great. Bigger than that I think the bow with a roller (and maybe a windlass) makes more sense. Whatever anchor system you use, it needs to be ready instantly. It's your emergency brake. If you have an anchor, it's not much use stowed where you have to leave the helm and dig for it. Danforth type anchors are great in one direction. Here in BC and the Puget Sound, the Danforth type will pick up a ball of mud, flip over when the tide changes, and then you are anchored to nothing. I have had this happen several times. I still carry a danforth type for emergency use or where I have a sternt tie to shore (common here) but I like a CQR, Bruce, Northill, or other type with a fluke that digs deep and pivots if I will swing with the tide.
Usually there's little or no good spot to store the anchor forward. A five gallon bucket should hold your chain and line, with the bitter end through a hole in the bottom or out the top and tied to something strong. It's really easy to set the anchor in the direction you're already going. Most of the time, the breeze into the cabin is welcome, but if you want or need (big waves) to point into the wind, just tie the anchor lie to your bow line and let out a bit more scope. When it's time to get underweigh, you are at the controls as you pull in the anchor, and it drifts out behind the boat as you pull it in, instead of drifting under the boat as it does from the bow. Up to maybe a Catalina 27, this works great. Bigger than that I think the bow with a roller (and maybe a windlass) makes more sense. Whatever anchor system you use, it needs to be ready instantly. It's your emergency brake. If you have an anchor, it's not much use stowed where you have to leave the helm and dig for it. Danforth type anchors are great in one direction. Here in BC and the Puget Sound, the Danforth type will pick up a ball of mud, flip over when the tide changes, and then you are anchored to nothing. I have had this happen several times. I still carry a danforth type for emergency use or where I have a sternt tie to shore (common here) but I like a CQR, Bruce, Northill, or other type with a fluke that digs deep and pivots if I will swing with the tide.
Anchor chain weight on a small boat
is a concern which is best dealt with considering balancing the boat fore and aft. Since the boat usually sits pretty level empty then sitting in the cockpit would suggest the better place for any carried weight is forward. I am in agreement with the previous posts, you should not be using an all chain rode with a 20 footer. It does help hold an anchor stock to pull horizontally but there is not much pull from a 20 foot daysailor unless you leave it out in a hurricane. I agree with 5 or 6 feet of chain at most and the rest nylon which absorbs sock much better. Chain only will be merciless on your deck cleats in a blow risking losing the hardware and the anchor and rode if the deck fails. Even if you are anchoring in 2 feet of water, lose the all chain rode and treat your hands to nylon line- your fingers will thank you. My own Danforth anchors have 6 feet of chain to give the rode improved catenary but I use 1/2 inch nylon rode to absorb the shock loads caused by gusty conditions and wave action. I carry the weight on the foredeck in anchor bags with the anchors on brackets on the bow pulpit of my Catalina 22.
is a concern which is best dealt with considering balancing the boat fore and aft. Since the boat usually sits pretty level empty then sitting in the cockpit would suggest the better place for any carried weight is forward. I am in agreement with the previous posts, you should not be using an all chain rode with a 20 footer. It does help hold an anchor stock to pull horizontally but there is not much pull from a 20 foot daysailor unless you leave it out in a hurricane. I agree with 5 or 6 feet of chain at most and the rest nylon which absorbs sock much better. Chain only will be merciless on your deck cleats in a blow risking losing the hardware and the anchor and rode if the deck fails. Even if you are anchoring in 2 feet of water, lose the all chain rode and treat your hands to nylon line- your fingers will thank you. My own Danforth anchors have 6 feet of chain to give the rode improved catenary but I use 1/2 inch nylon rode to absorb the shock loads caused by gusty conditions and wave action. I carry the weight on the foredeck in anchor bags with the anchors on brackets on the bow pulpit of my Catalina 22.
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