Propane pain

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Al9586

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May 23, 2004
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Hunter 356 Orange Park, Fl
Day One: We hadn't used the propane stove for a while so when it was time to heat something (i.e. eat dinner) I turned on the gas and the pressure climbed to a normal setting (about 100 on the gauge). The stove lit normally, then in two to three minutes, just as pan's getting hot, butter is starting to melt, etc, the flame slowly went out, like the valve shut itself off slowly. Still good pressure on the gauge. Hmmm.. try relight, stove starts to heat, flames out slowly - not suddenly. Must be out of propane I thought. Out comes different propane bottle, quick swap, fire up both burners...good flame and ran normally on high for several minutes, but too late to salvage dignity with gas. Admiral cooked the remainder of the dinner on an electric heat plate. Day Two: The Admiral begins to cook with propane the next night, both burners light normally, but within two to three minutes, slow flame-out. Still good pressure on the gauge - once again electric hot plate saves the day (dreading anchoring out with no propane.) Will check the tanks with a local propane dealer tomorrow, but in the meantime, anybody know what's going on with the propane? Can you get a good pressure reading from an empty tank? Can I blame this on something else other than running out of gas and thus keep my good standing with the Admiral?
 
Mar 1, 2004
351
Catalina 387 Cedar Mills-Lake Texhoma
Heat Sensor?

I beleive that there is a heat sensor that will shut off the gas if the pilot fails. Check and see if the pilot is staying lit or is going off. The sensor could be failing also.
 
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Mark

Propain

It probably is not a pilot light which would be controled by a thermocouple because they shut the gas off instantly with heat loss. It is acting like a low tank of fuel would since it does not appear to be producing enough gas for a long period. I would try refilling the tank since that would be the easiest and cheapest way to start. Depending on the size and material of your tank it could feel full when in actuality it is very low. Good luck!
 
Mar 21, 2004
2,175
Hunter 356 Cobb Island, MD
I Know, I Know

Al, You describe our problem exactly on Java. Replace the solenoid out in the tank locker. I had to replace mine about 6 weeks ago. You can get the part at West Marine, think it is part#553594 and the cost is $89.99. You will need to purchase a couple of adapters for the new one to fit in place. Take the old one with you to make the hose adapter connections. After that we cooked..... Jim S/V Java
 
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John

replace solenoid

Just had the exact same symptoms on our 326. Isolated the problem to the solenoid valve in the propane locker. Emailed Trident Marine and they sent replacement valve (no charge) as a warranty replacement (2 years old). Seems to have fixed the problem. Suspect there is a design problem with the valve that (hopefully) has been corrected.
 
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Suzanne

Design flaw

that Trident won't admit to but say they have heard about. We are on our third solenoid in four years. Quick fix is to wrap ice in a towel and lay in over the solenoid in the propane locker to cool it down. Ours seems to fail in the summertime when it is hot outside.
 
Dec 3, 2003
2,101
Hunter Legend 37 Portsmouth, RI
Darn Spiders! *grr

This happened on a portable grill I once had. Used it for the first time of the season and gas kept snuffing out. Scrapped the hot dogs on that day. In the off-season it turned out that a spider weaved it's web in one of the gas orafices and stopped the show. This is a good lesson to test systems BEFORE you head out for the first time. It's a good thing that it happened at the dock and not in some anchorage where there is no secondary power, as you said.
 
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Jeff Brown

Propain

This may be a stretch, but we had a similar problem and ours turned out to be the tank had been filled with more air than propane due to faulty equipment at the filling station. Stove would light, and then go out. Again and again. Tried to fill tank but it was full. Dealer told me it happens once in a blue moon, but does happen. Purged the air and residual propane from the tank; refilled with propane; no problems since. It’s worth a try ‘cause it’s cheap ...
 

Al9586

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May 23, 2004
55
Hunter 356 Orange Park, Fl
some good suggestions here

and I thank you all for your input...I'll let you know what happens. Think I will try items in the least to most expensive order: spiders, tanks, solenoid, regulator. Who knows? (but we all know it turn out to be the most expensive, after all it is a boat you know)
 
Jun 10, 2004
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- - Portland OR
Similar problem

My stove kept going out just as you describe. I thought I was out of gas so would switch tanks and the burners would light at least for a while. Since the tanks did not seem empty, I got to the point that I would just unscrew the fitting from the tank then screw it back in and that seemed to solve the problem temporarily. Finally took the tank in for a refill and confirmed that it was only about half empty. I think that it had an air-purge problem. Good luck, Kevin
 
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