Profish 1000 stalling

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The electric windlass stalls when pulling up the anchor. W some manual help pulling up the chain it does begin turning again. However it shouldn't require intervention. It should be able to handle my 100' g4 chain and 30lbs delta anchor, no?
 
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The electric windlass stalls when pulling up the anchor. W some manual help pulling up the chain it does begin turning again. However it shouldn't require intervention. It should be able to handle my 100' g4 chain and 30lbs delta anchor, no?
On my lewmar windlass there is a brake on the side. If I tighten it too much it won't operate. FYI I routinely lift 100' of chain and a 40 lb anchor.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,264
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
According to Lewmar Literature ...................

It should be able to handle my 100' g4 chain and 30lbs delta anchor, no?
.......................... it's overloaded, way, way overloaded.

If you look at the Lewmar calculations shown below, your Profish 1000 is only good for a working load of 26 lbs. while your ground tackle with 100 ft. of G4 and a 30 lb. anchor weighs in at 139 lbs.

The way that Lewmar rates their windlasses is extremely misleading. You have to read their literature very carefully. Their listed maximum pull and working load limit are a crock and can give you a bum steer.

You also want to ensure your voltage is sufficient when loaded up in order to make the best of a bad situation.

I recently installed a V1 for 87.5 lbs of tackle which works well. A smaller windlass would not have worked. And yes, the voltage is 14.0V when loaded.
 

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Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
.......................... it's overloaded, way, way overloaded. If you look at the Lewmar calculations shown below, your Profish 1000 is only good for a working load of 26 lbs. while your ground tackle with 100 ft. of G4 and a 30 lb. anchor weighs in at 139 lbs....

Not sure where you got 26 pounds. You underlined 105. Keep in mind you're not lifting the entire chain rode, only that number of feet that the depth of the water is.
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,264
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
Lewmar Makes the Rules ...............................

Ron20324;1048421 Not sure where you got 26 pounds. [B said:
You underlined 105.[/B] Keep in mind you're not lifting the entire chain rode, only that number of feet that the depth of the water is.
........................ and they call for a factor of safety of four. They state the working load limit of the Profish is 105 lbs. and that must be divided by a factor of four = 26 lbs. They also recommend using the total weight of the ground tackle because you never know when you'll be in deep enough water that you'll be lifting all of the tackle.

As I said, their figures are very misleading and you have to read closely to ensure your choice is correct.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
........................ and they call for a factor of safety of four. They state the working load limit of the Profish is 105 lbs. and that must be divided by a factor of four = 26 lbs. They also recommend using the total weight of the ground tackle because you never know when you'll be in deep enough water that you'll be lifting all of the tackle. As I said, their figures are very misleading and you have to read closely to ensure your choice is correct.
I just installed a 1000 last week, and the paperwork is on the boat, but a quick looking at the West book (page 219)explains in English that you MULTIPLY the working load in the shart TIMES 4 to get the pounds of PULL. That's why/how the ProFish 1000FF is rated, 1000 pounds of PULL. At 105 pounds of ground tackle (X 4 =420) even the 750 would be overkill, but all the same i used the 1000.

Please re-read and re-calculate your needs, and maybe you could have gotten by with something smaller than what you used.:doh:
 
Jul 8, 2005
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Jeanneau 389 Grosse Pointe Farms, MI
Ron20324,
Did you have a windlass before or was this the first install?
Wonder how hard it would be to put in a 321?

Chris
 
Jan 4, 2006
7,264
Hunter 310 West Vancouver, B.C.
In this Case ............................

I just installed a 1000 last week, and the paperwork is on the boat, but a quick looking at the West book (page 219)explains in English that you MULTIPLY the working load in the shart TIMES 4 to get the pounds of PULL. That's why/how the ProFish 1000FF is rated, 1000 pounds of PULL. At 105 pounds of ground tackle (X 4 =420) even the 750 would be overkill, but all the same i used the 1000.

Please re-read and re-calculate your needs, and maybe you could have gotten by with something smaller than what you used.:doh:
....................... it's clearer to use the Lewmar literature rather than the WM Advisor. Forget the maximum pull. This is the pulling force due to the locked rotor torque just as the circuit breaker opens. You never want to go there. Work only with the "working load limit".

Where the WM Advisor is less than clear is their use of the word "pull" rather than "working load". Pull refers to the "maximum pull" in the Lewmar literature, WM should have used the Lewmar term "working load limit" which is about 1/4 of the maximum pull.

I'd include the Lewmar catalogue here but but it's 24,000 KB which won't quite fit.

You can download you own copy at:

http://www.lewmar.com/catalogue.asp

Trust them and use their literature, they made the windlass.
 

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Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
cymeyer;1048547... Did you have a windlass before or was this the first install?Wonder how hard it would be to put in a 321? Chris[/quote said:
This was a replacement for an earier version of the 1000, which had a known design flaw. I don't know the layout of the 321, so can't really advise too much. Overall, it takes some advanced thinking about the task. The pic shows the original install, but the escond one i moved forward about 5 inches.
 

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Jul 8, 2005
522
Jeanneau 389 Grosse Pointe Farms, MI
Thanks. Looks more complicated than I need right now. Other priorities!
 
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