Proctor Mast spinnaker car and pole

Nov 4, 2016
62
Greeting folks. I recently acquired a Forespar spinnaker pole (11 feet) for my Vega and was quite thrilled at the prospect of FINALLY using that sail... however I found that the pole's ends are too big to fit within the standard spinnaker car on my Vega. It is a Proctor Mast car that is about one inch in ID where I might be better off with a 1.50 - 1.75 inch ID car. Does anyone know of if such a car was made and if so where can I get one? OR do I have to find another pole OR do I have to try and machine down one end of my pole to fit this car? I'm not sure how long Vega's used Proctor Masts so I'm not sure if our community is in a position to help. I don't see the prospects of getting a new pole, as this one, in excellent shape came to me quite cheap and I would like to use it. Any thoughts you might have would be welcome. Thanks, Hal
 
Oct 15, 2015
206
Hi Hal, My spinn car has a much larger ring welded onto it. It was like that when I bought the boat and I have never used it. I can see the remnants of the old ring and it looks much smaller in diameter.. hope this helps. From: "halandcindy@... [AlbinVega]" AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 2:47 PM Subject: [AlbinVega] Proctor Mast spinnaker car and pole




Greeting folks. I recently acquired a Forespar spinnaker pole (11 feet) for my Vega and was quite thrilled at the prospect of FINALLY using that sail... however I found that the pole's ends are too big to fit within the standard spinnaker car on my Vega. It is a Proctor Mast car that is about one inch in ID where I might be better off with a 1.50 - 1.75 inch ID car. Does anyone know of if such a car was made and if so where can I get one? OR do I have to find another pole OR do I have to try and machine down one end of my pole to fit this car? I'm not sure how long Vega's used Proctor Masts so I'm not sure if our community is in a position to help. I don't see the prospects of getting a new pole, as this one, in excellent shape came to me quite cheap and I would like to use it. Any thoughts you might have would be welcome. Thanks, Hal






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Jul 2, 2016
28
You might be able to find a car with a larger ring that will fit your track. That's what I did for my pole. It has huge ends on it. I found my car in a marine salvage yard. Hope this helps."Valkyrie" Albin Vega 27The Rudder Club, Jacksonville, Florida. USA
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
I’d ask a good local rigger, or lacking that a sailmaker (often they’re both).
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Nov 4, 2016
62
Howard you are right in that they are listed on the web, but there is no response and I'm not sure that the company is active. Hal Kearsley
 
Jan 28, 2001
694
Welding a larger ring might be the way to go as. Defender marine has a large assortment of rings that would probably fir your needs. Ebay might be a good place to try to find a used car. WaltFrom: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'sexton1313@...' sexton1313@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 4:37 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Proctor Mast spinnaker car and pole



You might be able to find a car with a larger ring that will fit your track. That's what I did for my pole. It has huge ends on it. I found my car in a marine salvage yard. Hope this helps.

"Valkyrie" Albin Vega 27
The Rudder Club, Jacksonville, Florida. USA
 
Nov 8, 2001
1,818
Thanks Walt, I've been all over Ebay and Craigs list and no joy. The current car is a cast stainless steel unit that I don't want to destroy by cutting it up, so I'm either going to have to find a second car that fits the track OR have one machined. Yes
Defender has rings, that's the easy part!!!! Thanks again, Hal
From: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com on behalf of walt judy brown allore bestvega@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 10:51:09 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Proctor Mast spinnaker car and pole



Welding a larger ring might be the way to go as. Defender marine has a large assortment of rings that would probably fir your needs. Ebay might be a good place to try to find a used car. WaltFrom: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com on behalf of 'sexton1313@...' sexton1313@... [AlbinVega] AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 4:37 PM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Proctor Mast spinnaker car and pole



You might be able to find a car with a larger ring that will fit your track. That's what I did for my pole. It has huge ends on it. I found my car in a marine salvage yard. Hope this helps.

"Valkyrie" Albin Vega 27
The Rudder Club, Jacksonville, Florida. USA
 
Feb 12, 2008
337
I think Forespar might make reducer bushings so you can mount a smaller ends on your larger diameter pole.
 
Jun 6, 2007
132
As I recall I removed mine, cut it through in the middle, spread the two ends enough to fit in an extra piece and got a welder to weld the piece in.Might be worth a try.Sent from my iPad
 
Oct 19, 2019
18
Albin Vega Anacortes
Proctor Masts eventually became part of the Sélden group, and now trade as Sélden masts. They have good drawings of their cars here.http://www.seldenmast.com/en/products/pdfview/__file_595-808v7-E-144-145.pdf.html
 

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Oct 23, 2010
67
Pearson P365K Port Angeles
Might try Garhauer.
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On 12/11/2016 8:36 PM, Howard Barbour
sailshiva@... [AlbinVega] wrote: