Prices in Florida

Feb 8, 2015
4
In-between ... Amsterdam-The Netherlands
Dear All,
I'm from Europe.
Am thinking of buying a 30 in Florida, and take it to the Caribbean for singlehanded cruising :dance:
Just wondering what at what price a 30 in decent condition and ready to sail will start. I don't care about age.

BIG THANKS,
V.
 
Nov 7, 2012
678
1978 Catalina 30 Wilbur-by-the-Sea
I would think for a nice wing keel in good shap mid 20s is not that bad. I bought a junker for 3.5k and over a year in have over 12 sunk and still am a few months from done.
 

mortyd

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Dec 11, 2004
952
Catalina 30 easy living
are you sure you want a catalina 30 to single hand in the open ocean? i love my boat but she was not designed nor constructed for blue water. denk tweemal of dreemal.
 
Feb 3, 2012
72
Corbin 39 Pilothouse Cutter Lyme, CT
Dear All, I'm from Europe. Am thinking of buying a 30 in Florida, and take it to the Caribbean for singlehanded cruising :dance: Just wondering what at what price a 30 in decent condition and ready to sail will start. I don't care about age. BIG THANKS, V.
Have Morris Leigh 30 For Sale - perfect single handed cruiser. $62500. US
 

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Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Feb 8, 2015
4
In-between ... Amsterdam-The Netherlands
are you sure you want a catalina 30 to single hand in the open ocean? i love my boat but she was not designed nor constructed for blue water. denk tweemal of dreemal.
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Fully agree, but it'll be a one-time/one way passage only.
And I've got Bruce van Sant's book in front of me....

THANKS,
V.
 
Jan 6, 2010
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V,

If it's one-time, one way, why not just fly to the Caribbean & charter a boat there?
Why would you want to buy a boat to only use one time?

CR
 
Feb 8, 2015
4
In-between ... Amsterdam-The Netherlands
Thanks CR,
The passage from Fl to BVI will be a one-time/one way no-hurry trip: don't plan to take it back to Fl, but keep it in Caribbean for as long as I'll like there, and then sell it there as well.

30' sailboats are not offered very much in Caribbean, it starts with >40': too big for singlehanded. In Fl, on the other hand, the market for 30'ers in Fl is much bigger and prices better. So Fl. seems the best place to source boat, and a C30 looks fine for the tropical isles.
 
Jan 6, 2010
1,520
V,

Thanks for the additional info to get a clearer picture of want you want to do.

I do know this, boats in Florida in winter, the prices may be cheaper.
I thought I read one post that mentioned a winged keel. I helped a friend bring back a wing keel 30 footer 300 miles in big conditions & I thought it was far above a fin keel in comfort & stability. I don't know why they went out of fashion. But, You need to sail one to see the difference.

Chenega's boat looks like a full or modified keel suited for making blue water passages also. Maybe you want to give him a call.........

ps: Age does matter in some boats, just keep this in mind. Older boats can be harder to work on & may have inherent problems associated with age.

Just lookin' out for ya pal. Make sure your choice is the smart choice.

CR
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Thanks CR,
The passage from Fl to BVI will be a one-time/one way no-hurry trip: don't plan to take it back to Fl, but keep it in Caribbean for as long as I'll like there, and then sell it there as well.

30' sailboats are not offered very much in Caribbean, it starts with >40': too big for singlehanded.

Maybe that has meaning as to what's good in the Caribbean. It's 1100 n.mi. from Ft. Lauderdale to the B.V.I. mostly hard on the wind in a boat that does not point all that well, and that is probably slow pounding in seas. I give you a hundred miles b/f coming back!! The Cat30 was designed to cross in mild conditions the San Pedro Channel off Southern California between Long Beach/Los Angeles and Catalina Island, a whopping 26 n.mi., and there sit on a mooring ball for the weekend, etc; NOT to beat to weather for a thousand nautical miles out in the middle of the friggin' ocean! It'd be like trying to go 4-wheeling in the High Sierra in a Volkswagen bug versus a Toyota 4-Runner. Get the right tool for the job! Geeze.
 
Sep 30, 2013
3,585
1988 Catalina 22 North Florida
I looked at this one last week. It needs a little TLC, has some soft areas on the foredeck, missing some cushions, etc, but the seller will go lower than the price shown: http://spacecoast.craigslist.org/bod/4797272603.html

BTW Vronsky, is that your name or your favorite drink?? LOL I hope it's your name, because that is the WORST vodka I ever tasted!! I bought a bottle of it in Havana once upon a time, and wound up pouring it out in Nassau. I think it may have wiped out half the coral reefs in the Bahamas. :puke:
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
Kings Gambit, really feel you can offer your advice/opinion without the negativity.

Thanks, but I don't know. A little earlier today or yesterday people here were complaining about the cost of USCG document renewal going from free to $26/yr. I wonder how many $50,000+ rescues of people out where they shouldn't be it would take to save us that fee? :doh:Maybe only one a year!
 

PGIJon

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Mar 3, 2012
856
Hunter 34 Punta Gorda
Just be sure to get a good surveyor and a good engine mechanic to take a look.
 
Feb 8, 2015
4
In-between ... Amsterdam-The Netherlands
Thanks for all your comments, warnings and advice.
Any further feedback regarding the title of the thread ?

Best Regards,
V.
 
Jan 7, 2012
276
catalina 22 Cave Run Lake
Thanks, but I don't know. A little earlier today or yesterday people here were complaining about the cost of USCG document renewal going from free to $26/yr. I wonder how many $50,000+ rescues of people out where they shouldn't be it would take to save us that fee? :doh:Maybe only one a year!
Maybe, but I think that is a slippery slope. I admit I do not know the numbers but have thought about the issue when situations like those come up. You hear that "those people" should have to pay for the cost of the rescue. Is that right or wrong. Personally I just do not think so. As far as I know all Americans bear the cost of our Coast Guard. Is it far that the millions of Americans that never step foot off land pay for the security of having the Coast Guard available to the few who do? The debate could get nasty really quick and that is not my intent. I see the Cost Guard as being an insurance policy for all of us paid for by all Americans to be there should we ever need them whatever the situation my be. Kinda of like insurance should work but it doesn't.
 
Jul 27, 2011
5,134
Bavaria 38E Alamitos Bay
I'm not saying mariners in distress should not be rescued irrespective of how they got there. I'm saying that people should be advised and educated of the risks associated w/ going to sea and discouraged w/o proper equipment & training. It is now a law in California that all recreational skippers must obtain boater certification to be legal, with the final phase-in over a few years hence. I've never been a proponent of this b/c I don't believe it will be all that effective toward increased safety. BUT, if ever I saw an example of the evident need for the law was last summer (2014) when some guy and his girlfriend in a 17-ft open fishing boat (console type) drove up to us at dusk while anchored at Santa Barbara Island (42 n.mi. offshore) and asked: "Hey, is this San Clemente Island?" Evidently, the guy thought he was heading for Avalon from Long Beach ca. 180 T and ended up at SBI ca. 260 T. It was hazy, so one could not see Catalina Island more than 8 miles out.

I gave him the heading to Isthmus Cove, Catalina but it was too late to make it by dark so the guy asked if it was safe to anchor the night there at Landing Cove. Lucky for him it was one of those really calm evenings with no big wind blowing through or forecast to, so I replied yes and asked him how much anchor line he had aboard--about 100 ft. The longest scope the guy could have w/o parking in or near the surf there was less than 4:1. I pointed where he could anchor in about 28 ft [he had no depth meter or plumb line] and told him to put it all out and make sure the anchor was set. I was awake most of the night watching out for the dude while he and his girlfriend slept under blankets and sleeping bags forward [temps in the 50's that night].

At daybreak they started to get underway. I reminded him again the magnetic course of 073 to the west end of Catalina Island. He replied, "I don't understand that navigation lingo." So, I briefly explained how to use his compass. I asked if they had a VHF; the woman replied yes but they didn't know how to use it except to call for a MayDay. I asked how they would give their location--did not know how; etc.; so I told them where they were, etc. If those two had missed SBI they would have another 20 n.mi to San Nicolas Island in the outer waters [much colder; much rougher], traveling in the dark in hazy conditions. I could just see that a USCG rescue attempt to find those two would not have been unlikely except for the luck.
 
Jan 7, 2012
276
catalina 22 Cave Run Lake
It truly amazes me how stupid some people can be. I guess their sense of adventure overruled any common sense they may have had. I totally agree that people should educate themselves and acquire the skills needed for any adventure they may seek. As well as I am thankful for those on this website willing to share their experience and knowledge with others seeking it.
 

mortyd

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Dec 11, 2004
952
Catalina 30 easy living
vronsky, i wish you all the best in your dreams but think you might wonder again why possibly the most popular sailboat ever made is such a rarity in the area you are condisdering and whether you might not be the first one with this idea.
 
Aug 29, 2015
22
catalina 30 big pine key
Veronsky great minds think alike , 3 weeks ago i flew to florida from yorkshire england and bought a c30 , it runs perfect and imo looks perfect apart from a few repairs and when i fly back out in 10 days im going to start doing a fit for a trip to the bahamas for a month at new year .
I can give you a couple of pointers
1 come out with a couple of boats in mind and viewing booked .
2 dont spend more then you are willing to lose .
3 make sure it starts and is more or less ready to sail .
4 hpfully you are able to do a full engine service ? so carry that out before you go anywhere .
5 tax there was a lot of fuss made about how as a foriener i was goting to tax it ? no idea what the fuss was about , i walked into the tax off explained i lived in uk , the boat was a antique ( someone on here will explain how old that is ) i did have to give them my uk address and a US address . but 15 minutes later and 60 $ i had 2 years worth of tax in my name.
6 i took mine then down to the keys where it now sits for free in effect in the sea .

vronsky i'm not sure how old you are but in the keys we have started a little 3 boat flotilla of my friends that are living and doing what you are thinking . Drop me a email on woody@apexloft.com and i'll explain how and why in more detail but i think the c30 is perfect for what im proposeing and if you can make it happen for new year ? our mate is sailing his cheoy lee with us and we'd love to have another c30 with us .