Just checking. Is a ODay 25 on a galvanized trailer with lots of extra gear including an older Loran nav. system and an inboard motor worth $3500 ? It has hard decks and only one or two places with spider cracks and they are small.
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Sounds almost too good to be true. If the engine is sound and the decks are solid, sails reasonable and hull fair then snap it up. There isn't anything on a boat that can't be repaired, depends on your skill set, patience and bank account. Hope it's everything you say it is. Don
Sounds almost too good to be true. If the engine is sound and the decks are solid, sails reasonable and hull fair then snap it up. There isn't anything on a boat that can't be repaired, depends on your skill set, patience and bank account. Hope it's everything you say it is. Don
Depends II
I bought mine in August of last year for 4,500 and it had no trailer. From what I've seen if the trailer is tandem and in good shape its probably worth near 3,500. I agree with Don BUT I'm not sure I base as much on the soundness of the engine. True, it would be expensive to replace it but if the boat and trailer are sound you probably can't go wrong at that price. If the engine is shot you can always take out the inboard and hang a used outboard. I have a 9.9 horse that works fine. Good luck, Mike
I bought mine in August of last year for 4,500 and it had no trailer. From what I've seen if the trailer is tandem and in good shape its probably worth near 3,500. I agree with Don BUT I'm not sure I base as much on the soundness of the engine. True, it would be expensive to replace it but if the boat and trailer are sound you probably can't go wrong at that price. If the engine is shot you can always take out the inboard and hang a used outboard. I have a 9.9 horse that works fine. Good luck, Mike
look at other boats for sale
I bought my 1984 O'day 25 last year and paid $5500 with out a trailer. It is worth about $10,000 with all the work I have done on it. Why are they asking 3500? Get a survey if you like the boat and make the offer pending the outcome of the survey results. Whne I bought the boat it had a Johnson 9.9, main and 100% jib. The boat was dirty and had a few gouges in the deck. Had the deck fixed, installed roller furling with 150& jib nad redid all the teak on the deck and cleaned and oiled the wood below. What a difference. EJ Tews O'Day 25 Jennifer Lea
I bought my 1984 O'day 25 last year and paid $5500 with out a trailer. It is worth about $10,000 with all the work I have done on it. Why are they asking 3500? Get a survey if you like the boat and make the offer pending the outcome of the survey results. Whne I bought the boat it had a Johnson 9.9, main and 100% jib. The boat was dirty and had a few gouges in the deck. Had the deck fixed, installed roller furling with 150& jib nad redid all the teak on the deck and cleaned and oiled the wood below. What a difference. EJ Tews O'Day 25 Jennifer Lea
Survey it and buy it
Tom - It really does sound too good to be true, but that doesn't mean that's the case. In the current market, especially here in New England, there are some awesome deals to be had. I would have the boat surveyed. Whether to go forward or not depends on whether you want the most perfect boat you can get for 3500 - in which case you should buy something smaller - or are looking for a go intro to a boat in this range - in which case I'd probably do it. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
Tom - It really does sound too good to be true, but that doesn't mean that's the case. In the current market, especially here in New England, there are some awesome deals to be had. I would have the boat surveyed. Whether to go forward or not depends on whether you want the most perfect boat you can get for 3500 - in which case you should buy something smaller - or are looking for a go intro to a boat in this range - in which case I'd probably do it. Justin - O'day Owners' Web
May be a great deal!
If you aren't capable of determining the boats seaworthiness (is that a word?) have it surveyed. From my experience, I bought a '76 25, there is very little that represents real expense if the necessary regular maintainance was done by the previous owners. On mine, the inboard was the millstone for a previous owner. He had estimates of $3-4 k to fix the A4 that was bad. He hung an 8 horse outboard off of it and that works well. I wish it had a little more backing power sometimes, but it moves the boat along at hull speed in most conditions. It's just stopping the 2 tons that sometimes gets tricky with the small prop. The transom was made to hold an outboard bracket too. A benefit is the added room I have where the inboard used to be. Just remember to check the stuffing box regularly if you leave the prop shaft in. Mine is still there, I've got 2 zinc anodes, one on each side of the cutlass bearing, to keep the shaft from sliding. All in all I like my '25. I bought it with a loran, depth and radio. Two furling headsails 150 and 70%, a hank on jib (available for sale), main (older) new winches, two anchors and full Coast Guard package, it was in "sail away condition" and I did sail it with almost no work. No trailer and I spent almost twice what you did. The survey came back glowing though, otherwise I would have tried to bargain harder, or kept looking around. Times are funny right now for money and I've also maintained contact with the previous owner, we are making plans to sail together next week. I love my '25, I don't yearn for a larger boat yet and I feel there is very little on board that I won't be able to tackle when the time comes. Geof Day-O
If you aren't capable of determining the boats seaworthiness (is that a word?) have it surveyed. From my experience, I bought a '76 25, there is very little that represents real expense if the necessary regular maintainance was done by the previous owners. On mine, the inboard was the millstone for a previous owner. He had estimates of $3-4 k to fix the A4 that was bad. He hung an 8 horse outboard off of it and that works well. I wish it had a little more backing power sometimes, but it moves the boat along at hull speed in most conditions. It's just stopping the 2 tons that sometimes gets tricky with the small prop. The transom was made to hold an outboard bracket too. A benefit is the added room I have where the inboard used to be. Just remember to check the stuffing box regularly if you leave the prop shaft in. Mine is still there, I've got 2 zinc anodes, one on each side of the cutlass bearing, to keep the shaft from sliding. All in all I like my '25. I bought it with a loran, depth and radio. Two furling headsails 150 and 70%, a hank on jib (available for sale), main (older) new winches, two anchors and full Coast Guard package, it was in "sail away condition" and I did sail it with almost no work. No trailer and I spent almost twice what you did. The survey came back glowing though, otherwise I would have tried to bargain harder, or kept looking around. Times are funny right now for money and I've also maintained contact with the previous owner, we are making plans to sail together next week. I love my '25, I don't yearn for a larger boat yet and I feel there is very little on board that I won't be able to tackle when the time comes. Geof Day-O
Well, I bought it....
There is a little more spider cracking than I first spotted, but there still isn't a great deal. The engin is the "Virus" 7. I'm sure it doesn't work. I went through the manual, and it looks like a standard "70's" era two stroke. Usually, engines from that time can be considered reliable, but I cannot help but wonder what shape the castings are after 26 years. What lousy access! It's going to be a major job getting the motor out of that boat. I think there is an outboard hidden in this deal somewhere. The brackets are on the transom. Never the less, there is a carb rebuild kit, a complete set of engine gaskets, spare water impellers, and a bunch of other stuff for the motor. I have some ability here, on rebuilding 2-stroke motors, so I'll give it a shot. If the inspection on tear down shows the castings are sound, I'll probably rebuild it. The wood needs major work, and I'm not quite sure how to restore it. The rest of the boat appears sound. I've been to several boat yards and actually was looking for a 22 foot boat. This boat hasn't seen the water since '97 and it's clear the owners didn't intend to stop useing it. It has depth finder, loran, VHF ( if I can find it ) A complete inflatable life boat, knot meter, aparent wind speed indicator, heel guage, bumpers, coast guard stuff, boat hooks, water/elect hook ups, tools manuals, charts for about two hundred miles up and down the coast, rain gear, the head will have to be up-graded, it's a pump thru. The trailer will need some brake work that I can do myself and wireing, ( trailer brakes are hydraulic )the tires seem sound. I think it was a good deal. The hull has a scraped spot on it, about 10 x 15 inches, that will need paint. It has been glassed and finished, but not painted. I walked around the boat wacking it with a rubber mallet, all seems sound. I'll still need to address the mechanical stuff, like the bilge pumps and that sort of thing, but the inside is in good shape and I can do the motor work if it can be repaired, so I'm happy. It will need a major cleaning and buffing. I think it was a good deal for $3500
There is a little more spider cracking than I first spotted, but there still isn't a great deal. The engin is the "Virus" 7. I'm sure it doesn't work. I went through the manual, and it looks like a standard "70's" era two stroke. Usually, engines from that time can be considered reliable, but I cannot help but wonder what shape the castings are after 26 years. What lousy access! It's going to be a major job getting the motor out of that boat. I think there is an outboard hidden in this deal somewhere. The brackets are on the transom. Never the less, there is a carb rebuild kit, a complete set of engine gaskets, spare water impellers, and a bunch of other stuff for the motor. I have some ability here, on rebuilding 2-stroke motors, so I'll give it a shot. If the inspection on tear down shows the castings are sound, I'll probably rebuild it. The wood needs major work, and I'm not quite sure how to restore it. The rest of the boat appears sound. I've been to several boat yards and actually was looking for a 22 foot boat. This boat hasn't seen the water since '97 and it's clear the owners didn't intend to stop useing it. It has depth finder, loran, VHF ( if I can find it ) A complete inflatable life boat, knot meter, aparent wind speed indicator, heel guage, bumpers, coast guard stuff, boat hooks, water/elect hook ups, tools manuals, charts for about two hundred miles up and down the coast, rain gear, the head will have to be up-graded, it's a pump thru. The trailer will need some brake work that I can do myself and wireing, ( trailer brakes are hydraulic )the tires seem sound. I think it was a good deal. The hull has a scraped spot on it, about 10 x 15 inches, that will need paint. It has been glassed and finished, but not painted. I walked around the boat wacking it with a rubber mallet, all seems sound. I'll still need to address the mechanical stuff, like the bilge pumps and that sort of thing, but the inside is in good shape and I can do the motor work if it can be repaired, so I'm happy. It will need a major cleaning and buffing. I think it was a good deal for $3500
Congratulations...
Don't give up on the Vire7 (Virus7...made me chuckle). Couple of the guys here have them and have rebuilt them. These were dependable, simple, gas Danish fishing boat engines. I believe Westerbeke made them. Check the archives here by typing in Vire into the search engine. Sounds like the rest is pretty much cosmetic. Hopefully your sailing latter this summer. Cheers. Don
Don't give up on the Vire7 (Virus7...made me chuckle). Couple of the guys here have them and have rebuilt them. These were dependable, simple, gas Danish fishing boat engines. I believe Westerbeke made them. Check the archives here by typing in Vire into the search engine. Sounds like the rest is pretty much cosmetic. Hopefully your sailing latter this summer. Cheers. Don
1976
It's a 1976. I don't want to pretend it's in perfect shape. The word boat means " bring another $1000". The top paint has that mildew growing on it. Mildew grows in tiny pits in the paint caused by abrasion and acid rain (I think) and I bet in about 3 or 4 years she'll need a total paint job... I will try to rebuild the engine. The only thing that will keep it from going are castings that are too corroded to use. Externally the motor looks good. Today I go to work on the trailer brakes and wireing for the move from yard to driveway. I want to thank you guys for the imput. Thanks to this site and the people on it I know where to find parts, like the replacement teak hand rails, and lots of other stuff.
It's a 1976. I don't want to pretend it's in perfect shape. The word boat means " bring another $1000". The top paint has that mildew growing on it. Mildew grows in tiny pits in the paint caused by abrasion and acid rain (I think) and I bet in about 3 or 4 years she'll need a total paint job... I will try to rebuild the engine. The only thing that will keep it from going are castings that are too corroded to use. Externally the motor looks good. Today I go to work on the trailer brakes and wireing for the move from yard to driveway. I want to thank you guys for the imput. Thanks to this site and the people on it I know where to find parts, like the replacement teak hand rails, and lots of other stuff.
Good Deal
Tom, I bought a 83 O'day 25 that sounds like it was in the same shape this one is. I gave $2300 for it. It has an omc saildrive. The exhaustmanifold was missing, but I bought one off of this forum. If you need something for your boat or help this is the place to get it. I didn't get a trailer with mine, but I did get a deal in the trailer I bought.The trailer I have is a triple axle, with brakes on the front two.It has a weight cap. of 11,000 lb. price was $1100. total package $3400 and $100 for the manifold. Sounds like a good deal to me!
Tom, I bought a 83 O'day 25 that sounds like it was in the same shape this one is. I gave $2300 for it. It has an omc saildrive. The exhaustmanifold was missing, but I bought one off of this forum. If you need something for your boat or help this is the place to get it. I didn't get a trailer with mine, but I did get a deal in the trailer I bought.The trailer I have is a triple axle, with brakes on the front two.It has a weight cap. of 11,000 lb. price was $1100. total package $3400 and $100 for the manifold. Sounds like a good deal to me!
Noticed a Bonus
The boat looks good. The trailer has an extension arm off of the front angled up and out. This could have been used as an device to winch up the mast from the trailer. Imagine a line run from the winch over the roller and back to the top of a gin pole (probably about 8-10 feet in height) attached to the front of the mast. From there using your jib halyard as the tensioner line to the top of the mast. The mast is laying flat, pinned to its tabernacle, and out towards the aft, the gin pole is sticking up. By cranking on the trailer winch that ginpole acts as a leveredge arm pulling up the mast. Look for a gin pole on board and an attaching point, eye or bracket on the front of the mast about the boom height. If there is none you could easily construct one for this purpose. Good luck. Don
The boat looks good. The trailer has an extension arm off of the front angled up and out. This could have been used as an device to winch up the mast from the trailer. Imagine a line run from the winch over the roller and back to the top of a gin pole (probably about 8-10 feet in height) attached to the front of the mast. From there using your jib halyard as the tensioner line to the top of the mast. The mast is laying flat, pinned to its tabernacle, and out towards the aft, the gin pole is sticking up. By cranking on the trailer winch that ginpole acts as a leveredge arm pulling up the mast. Look for a gin pole on board and an attaching point, eye or bracket on the front of the mast about the boom height. If there is none you could easily construct one for this purpose. Good luck. Don
Been there in NH
Bought a 1975 Oday 25 from Fays Yard last fall. Repainted everything and many upgrades in and out. She's up at lake Winny now and we love it. E-mail me if you want to talk or take a look (nccgm@aol.com). Ric "comes a time" Amherst, NH
Bought a 1975 Oday 25 from Fays Yard last fall. Repainted everything and many upgrades in and out. She's up at lake Winny now and we love it. E-mail me if you want to talk or take a look (nccgm@aol.com). Ric "comes a time" Amherst, NH
To Don E.
Hi Don, My wife will be disapointed that the "bonus" was not her, but I think you are a genious. I couldn't figure out what all that stuff was but I think you hit it on the head! There are three poles in the boat and I'll check to see if one of them is what you're talking about. That's a hell of a good idea!
Hi Don, My wife will be disapointed that the "bonus" was not her, but I think you are a genious. I couldn't figure out what all that stuff was but I think you hit it on the head! There are three poles in the boat and I'll check to see if one of them is what you're talking about. That's a hell of a good idea!
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