Position of holding tank on Vega?

dobermanct_dave · Jun 16, 2003

I put an off the shelf 13 gallon tank under the V-berth on mine. The tank itself fits under the V-berth just fine, but the vent/sensor sticks up about 2 inches.

The tank is wedge shaped, and is centered in the V-berth area. Hoses run under the V-berth on the SB side, one from the head to the tank, the other from the tank to a Y valve to either a deck pump-out or pump to the sea for off shore use.

We'll see how it works in practice, as the boat is on the hard for renovation just now.

Dave V2917

mike_184_us · Jun 16, 2003

OHHHH SHIT (coinsedence - hahaha)

Does it absolutely have to be obligatoric to only empty the tank in marinas ? - why not - as a Vegatarian - show a good example ?

Would you like to swim in water with shit floating around you ? - do you think fish do ?

In Denmark it will be obligatoric soon - but as usual, other European countries are far behind the Nordic.

Show a good example - stop polution of the sea.

Karl Erik - Vega 1941.

towlerg · Jun 16, 2003

I guess this isn't very PC and I'll probably get flamed but surely
fish do indeed swim around in their own shit. In few years time I
forsee some absurd EEC project to install nappies on whales.

Rgs George

bbach1949 · Jun 16, 2003

Hello Hielke: My Vega has the holding tank installed in the compartment aft
of the water tank. It's about 8 gallons (Wilcox Crittendon brand). The tank
is strapped to added athwartship stringers. The pump out hose extends to the
deck in the hanging locker just forward of the head compartment. The vent
pipe goes forward on the starboard side under the V-berth support, and then vents
to the outside high in the chainlocker. My advice is to hard pipe as much as
possible ( I used ABS pipe) with flexible hoses only at the terminations.
All head hose stinks after a while, so as little length as possible for minimal
exposure is best.

I can take pictures of the installation and post them if anyone is
interested.
Bill Bach V1071

s_demont · Jun 17, 2003

Hi Bill,

That would be great if you could post some photos of this project. I'm planning on installing a marine head in my Vega, and need some ideas about where and how to install the holding tank.

Cheers,
Steve DeMont
"Erendira"
Vega 2947

BBach1949@... wrote:
Hello Hielke: My Vega has the holding tank installed in the compartment aft
of the water tank. It's about 8 gallons (Wilcox Crittendon brand). The tank
is strapped to added athwartship stringers. The pump out hose extends to the
deck in the hanging locker just forward of the head compartment. The vent
pipe goes forward on the starboard side under the V-berth support, and then vents
to the outside high in the chainlocker. My advice is to hard pipe as much as
possible ( I used ABS pipe) with flexible hoses only at the terminations.
All head hose stinks after a while, so as little length as possible for minimal
exposure is best.

I can take pictures of the installation and post them if anyone is
interested.
Bill Bach V1071Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
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wxt8981 · Jun 17, 2003

Hi:

I'm giving my 5 cents worth about a sanitation system.
I used to have a regular marine head with a holding tank with rigid
connections. In the USA, there must be
a Y-valve (and better not get caught with the valve in the over board
setting). One of the major problems
here is the lack of pump-out stations. And at one pump-out station I've
seen a pipe going seawards and I
started wondering why I just paid good money to have the waste pumped
out that way and why I just not had
discharged it myself overboard (though I would have gotten a nasty fine
had I been caught doing this!)

I removed everything, fiberglassed the holes, and now I have a portable
head. With proper maintenance there
is no odor. Since I'm sailing single handed most of the time, I have no
problems what so ever. The holding
capacity of the portable head is less than my previous holding tank, but
still good enough for a few days, even
when I have company.

I no longer have to worry about the Y-valve setting, where to find a
pump-out station. It's more cumbersome
to take the waste out on a portable head, but I've found it was actually
cleaner because when I'm not on the
boat for a few days, I empty the tank at the marina (they don't have a
pump-out facility), and when I come back
a few days later, I come to a clean boat.

And when I'm way off-shore.... I used the bucket!

Wilhelm, V-257

Stephen DeMont wrote:

s_demont · Jun 17, 2003

Yep. I'm using a porta-potti now. It's in the head compartment. Yes, it's a littlemore convenient to dump the waste yourself, if your marina allows you to, which mine, Alameda Marina, doesn't. Don't as me why they won't let us dump the stuff in their bathrooms, especially when you see all the run-off from the wet-sanding and paint that goes down the drain.

I keep the porta-potti in the head compartment instead of in front of the V-birth. But it's hard to stand up to use the porta potti because the overhead is too low. I'm thinking that using a marine head with a 12-inch height might be better. I don't know? Maybe it doesn't make that much difference.

It sounds like that a few of you are more in favor of the porta-potti solution. What are the pros to a fixed marine head solution?

Steve
"Erendira"
Vega 2947

WL vega257@... wrote:
Hi:

I'm giving my 5 cents worth about a sanitation system.
I used to have a regular marine head with a holding tank with rigid
connections. In the USA, there must be
a Y-valve (and better not get caught with the valve in the over board
setting). One of the major problems
here is the lack of pump-out stations. And at one pump-out station I've
seen a pipe going seawards and I
started wondering why I just paid good money to have the waste pumped
out that way and why I just not had
discharged it myself overboard (though I would have gotten a nasty fine
had I been caught doing this!)

I removed everything, fiberglassed the holes, and now I have a portable
head. With proper maintenance there
is no odor. Since I'm sailing single handed most of the time, I have no
problems what so ever. The holding
capacity of the portable head is less than my previous holding tank, but
still good enough for a few days, even
when I have company.

I no longer have to worry about the Y-valve setting, where to find a
pump-out station. It's more cumbersome
to take the waste out on a portable head, but I've found it was actually
cleaner because when I'm not on the
boat for a few days, I empty the tank at the marina (they don't have a
pump-out facility), and when I come back
a few days later, I come to a clean boat.

And when I'm way off-shore.... I used the bucket!

Wilhelm, V-257

Stephen DeMont wrote:

bbach1949 · Jun 17, 2003

OK - I'll post pictures after this weekend. We're completely happy with the
fixed head, but I think my installation is pretty uncluttered. The smallest
marine head is the one to use - I used a Jabsco, but the little
Wilcox-Crittenden also would fit. I didn't install a Y-Valve, but I can pump out the tank
with my Whale bilge pump (that I have mounted to a board and can use in various
locations) if no pumpout around by connecting to a couple of "banjo" fittings
that connect to the discharge seacock. There's a pumpout station in our
moorage, and Oregon is pretty big on providing public pumpouts, so haven't had to
pump overboard yet. Bill Bach, V1071

s_demont · Jun 17, 2003

Cool. Thanks, Bill.

I think what I'm trying to do is get my Vega back into an almost original state. After owning her for five years, I finally got around to filling the water tank in the bow to use the galley sink. It works. Now I have running water. It's great. I can wash my hands, clean my reading glasses, and get cozy. All that after five years of refitting her and doing a lot of "just" sailing. Now I'm motivated to do the rest of the plumbing, and slap a couple coats of Interlux on her hull just for appearances sake. These boats a great to sale.

Steve
"Erendira"
Vega 2947

BBach1949@... wrote:
OK - I'll post pictures after this weekend. We're completely happy with the
fixed head, but I think my installation is pretty uncluttered. The smallest
marine head is the one to use - I used a Jabsco, but the little
Wilcox-Crittenden also would fit. I didn't install a Y-Valve, but I can pump out the tank
with my Whale bilge pump (that I have mounted to a board and can use in various
locations) if no pumpout around by connecting to a couple of "banjo" fittings
that connect to the discharge seacock. There's a pumpout station in our
moorage, and Oregon is pretty big on providing public pumpouts, so haven't had to
pump overboard yet. Bill Bach, V1071Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

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vega1860 · Jun 18, 2003

Stephen DeMont s_demont@... wrote:

s_demont · Jun 18, 2003

I agree, Chuck. It keeps your back straight and your head from getting bumped when the boat moves. It's also a sure-fire way of making sure the stream hits dead center.

steve

vega1860@... wrote:Stephen DeMont s_demont@... wrote: