portapotty or holding tank?

roy

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Feb 1, 2009
186
2 270 soldiers point
My Vega has the original head with no holding tank. So my options are to install a holding tank or do the porta-potty thing.

Does anyone in the group have an opinion on which is better?

Is there such a thing as a removable holding tank? Seems to me this would yield the benifits of a porta-potty.

Thanks,
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Oct 31, 2019
562
Hi.:)
It all depends where you sail and who is sailing with you.
If you sail in an area where there is a pump-out station
and strict enforcement of the environmental laws, get a
holding tank, but make sure the Y-valve is in the correct
position to avoid getting a hefty fine. I guess everything
can be made- hence a removable holding tank can be made as
well- but if you use a porta potty, that has a removable
tank. I personally sail 99% single handed, and a porta
potty serves me just fine.
Wilhelm, V-257
 
Oct 31, 2019
562
.... and I forgot to say- if you use a porta potty, there
is one less through hull fitting that can go bad.....
Wilhelm, V-257
 
Oct 2, 2005
86
We just installed this KISS method on Whisper last weekend, so far so
good. We bought a holding tank that had no fittings so we were able
to place them where we need them. I'll post pictures and provide the
name & size of the holding tank if anyone is intersted in replicating
the process. The head is a Blake Lavac vacuum style.

Kristen
s/v Whisper
 
Oct 30, 2019
1,459
Kristen:
I'm very interested in seeing your setup. I look forward to pictures
and more details.

Peter
#1331 'Sin Tacha'
 
Nov 8, 2003
166
My wife and I both found the head compartment very small and
actually not very easy to use. So I removed the head and holding
tank and sold them on E-Bay. We then built shelves in it's place. It
worked so well that we are going to build shelves in the hanging
locker side also. We have a port-a-pottie set mid-ships up by the V-
berth. At dock we use the facilities and only use the port-a-potty
when needed when out sailing and empty it as soon as we return to
dock. Two less thru-hulls to worry about and the best thing is that
there is never that SMELL that a holding tank eventually gives off.

RG
 
Oct 30, 2019
80
My wife and I installed a new holding tank from RONCO. It's number
122. It fits just aft of the fresh water tank. I had four fittings
installed on it.Two @ 1 1/2" for the inlet and outlet and two @3/4"
for vents. The vents are foreward and aft at the top vertical sides
of the tank, in the center. I ran the vent hose to hose barb through
hulls port and starboard at the top of the hull near the deck joint.
We use KO, the aerobic enzyme that eats poopy smell. We love it. NO
SMELL!! The tank holds about 12 gallons. We find that when travelling
with our two who are still at home we need a pumpout on every third
day. I had considered putting a second tank behind the head but I'm
pleased enough with the capacity of this one.
Thanks, Frank and Tena DeBaggis, Carpe Diem, Vega 2141
 
Oct 31, 2019
84
Have four wires coming to switch inside companionway cabin top. Two black and two white. want to eliminate switch and operate new dome lights with switch on domes themselves. Would I just connect the two black and two white at old switch location thereby eliminating old switch and making activation at new domes? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also looking for new or replacement vlovo md6a engine instrument panel with wiring... V 2137 "Puffin". Thanks, Pat Colligan

Frank DeBaggis debaggisf@... wrote: My wife and I installed a new holding tank from RONCO. It's number
122. It fits just aft of the fresh water tank. I had four fittings
installed on it.Two @ 1 1/2" for the inlet and outlet and two @3/4"
for vents. The vents are foreward and aft at the top vertical sides
of the tank, in the center. I ran the vent hose to hose barb through
hulls port and starboard at the top of the hull near the deck joint.
We use KO, the aerobic enzyme that eats poopy smell. We love it. NO
SMELL!! The tank holds about 12 gallons. We find that when travelling
with our two who are still at home we need a pumpout on every third
day. I had considered putting a second tank behind the head but I'm
pleased enough with the capacity of this one.
Thanks, Frank and Tena DeBaggis, Carpe Diem, Vega 2141
 
Oct 31, 2019
3
The light switch is probably only SPST (Single Pole Single Through)
this would mean that only 2 wires are connected to the switch,
therefore, 2 wires are already connected (probably blacks).

Remove the fuse for this circuit first and test for voltage to ensure
the circuit is not live.

Remove the switch, connect the 2 wires that were connected to the
switch.

Install the light with light bulb.

I would recommend testing the circuit before energizing though, to do
this disconnect the white and black wire at the electrical panel,
test for DC voltage, then connect your ohm meter to the wires and
operate the switch on the new light, you should see the ohm meter
switch from "open circuit" to an ohm value.

If you don't see the ohm value change you will need to investigate
further before energizing the circuit. (Note, the ohm meter will be
testing the wires, through the switch and light bulb).

If you see the switching action then insert the fuse and test the
light.

Regards,
Greg
 
Oct 31, 2019
84
Thankyou for feedback Greg. It would seem to make sense to connect the two black wires and the two white wires in the elimination of switch but for some reason One white wire was connected to a black wire and the other black and white wire were going to the switch. The one set of black and white connected together were not connected to anything else. I would think if this was original equipment on a 73 Vega black would be considered ground.. The reason for 4 wires are the 2 dome lights I am trying to replace. The switch looks original so the wiring should be a no brainer. The problem is sometimes I dont think I have a brain ! 2white wires and 2 black wires (all original) going to one switch operating two dome lights. Should be simple, RIGHT !!?? Thanks for help any other suggestions would be appreciated. Pat
bluenorth50 bluenorth50@... wrote: The light switch is probably only SPST (Single Pole Single Through)
this would mean that only 2 wires are connected to the switch,
therefore, 2 wires are already connected (probably blacks).

Remove the fuse for this circuit first and test for voltage to ensure
the circuit is not live.

Remove the switch, connect the 2 wires that were connected to the
switch.

Install the light with light bulb.

I would recommend testing the circuit before energizing though, to do
this disconnect the white and black wire at the electrical panel,
test for DC voltage, then connect your ohm meter to the wires and
operate the switch on the new light, you should see the ohm meter
switch from "open circuit" to an ohm value.

If you don't see the ohm value change you will need to investigate
further before energizing the circuit. (Note, the ohm meter will be
testing the wires, through the switch and light bulb).

If you see the switching action then insert the fuse and test the
light.

Regards,
Greg
 
Oct 31, 2019
3
Pat, I uploaded a sketch of the system (look for PDF titled "Re light
switch dome lights in salon". The sketch includes existing and new
versions. I'm not sure if the existing version is a 100% accurate
but the new version is what you want to end up with.

Note: the existing version has the 2 lights in series, which is not
the way to do things but this configuration does satisfy the WT/BK
connection in the electrical panel.......

Hope this helps!
Greg
 
Oct 31, 2019
84
Thanks so much Greg for your input, figured it out.. Pat V2137 Puffin

bluenorth50 bluenorth50@... wrote: Pat, I uploaded a sketch of the system (look for PDF titled "Re light
switch dome lights in salon". The sketch includes existing and new
versions. I'm not sure if the existing version is a 100% accurate
but the new version is what you want to end up with.

Note: the existing version has the 2 lights in series, which is not
the way to do things but this configuration does satisfy the WT/BK
connection in the electrical panel.......

Hope this helps!
Greg